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Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by fdgadfagfgd »

beyondd wrote: post #60
eltondegeneres wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the issues with Mozilla's use of onerep?

One of the issues are OneRep's affiliate partnerships with the very data brokers you're paying them to remove you from: https://imgur.com/a/juSC66b

Any other issues besides that possible conflict of interest? Also, you're the founder of a competing service, right?

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by HaloZero »

ary wrote: post #7

I’m a happy, long term Optery user (not affiliated) and they take care of 100% of this for you. https://www.optery.com The Mozilla offering looks somewhat comparable, but I do wonder if they’re going to beat a company which has the sole focus of solving this problem.

I'm curious, what's the point of paying for Optery per year? Isn't removing your data be a one time request. Except for supporting new brokers that might appear.

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by beyondd »

causal wrote: post #3

I like this in theory, I don't have time to chase down every data broker to opt-out on my own. I'm just wondering how I can measure whether it's really effective or not. Anyone have experience with this kind of thing?

Optery customers get Removals Reports every 90 days. PCMag.com wrote this about the Optery Removals Report: "With the Removals report, you see what was found along with a new screenshot demonstrating that the data was removed, and a link to verify the removal. No other personal data removal service I’ve seen gives you this level of verification."

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by fdgadfagfgd »

lkdfjlkdfjlg wrote: post #61
beyondd wrote: post #54

Optery founder here. If you're taking a look at Mozilla Monitor, I recommend taking a look at Optery too: - Optery's Ultimate plan covers 300+ data broker sites and offers Unlimited Custom Removals providing the most comprehensive coverage in the industry. Optery has a variety of plans for different coverage needs (Free, Paid, Family, Business), and the ability to pause or cancel a subscription at any time. - Mozilla…

> Optery (YC W22) Nothing against your company specifically, but at this stage anything associated with YN is a negative.

I think if you express an opinion like that you ought to say why too. It could be you have a point. But you could also be (mis)interpreted as a critic who, instead of building things themself, finds imperfections in things the real builders make...

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by tholtken »

fdgadfagfgd wrote: post #71
beyondd wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the issues are OneRep's affiliate partnerships with the very data brokers you're paying them to remove you from: https://imgur.com/a/juSC66b

Any other issues besides that possible conflict of interest? Also, you're the founder of a competing service, right?

not affiliated with Optery but agree conflict of interest, also misleading by onerep and at best deceptive. take that potential lack of trust together with the several reports online that onerep's us operation is a sham and they are really operating out of eastern europe and sending user data there...seems shady. begs the question: what does a privacy-respecting org like Mozilla see in onerep and how is it better than what other companies offer?

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by wolverine876 »

fdgadfagfgd wrote: post #71
beyondd wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the issues are OneRep's affiliate partnerships with the very data brokers you're paying them to remove you from: https://imgur.com/a/juSC66b

Any other issues besides that possible conflict of interest? Also, you're the founder of a competing service, right?

They are. There's a flagged dead comment where they say so (I don't know if this link will work for a flagged dead comment):

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=39276106

beyonddd should really identify themselves as the founder of a competitor. Nothing wrong with posting, but pseudo-anonymously disparaging the competition seems very inappropriate.

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by anjel »

ary wrote: post #7

I’m a happy, long term Optery user (not affiliated) and they take care of 100% of this for you. https://www.optery.com The Mozilla offering looks somewhat comparable, but I do wonder if they’re going to beat a company which has the sole focus of solving this problem.

I cleared my name from the net using another service that charged by the month. I paid them for three months, when their work clearing my data from about 100+brokers was completed, then cancelled. 2 years later, my name and personal data still remain no longer to be found like it once was before the scrubbing.

Re: Mozilla Monitor Plus: automatically remove your personal info from data brokers

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Post by fdgadfagfgd »

some_random wrote: post #62
beyondd wrote: post #54

Optery founder here. If you're taking a look at Mozilla Monitor, I recommend taking a look at Optery too: - Optery's Ultimate plan covers 300+ data broker sites and offers Unlimited Custom Removals providing the most comprehensive coverage in the industry. Optery has a variety of plans for different coverage needs (Free, Paid, Family, Business), and the ability to pause or cancel a subscription at any time. - Mozilla…

Wait what, why would a data broker partner with a company whose entire purpose is to reduce the completeness of their dataset?

If you ever do this manually, the data brokers that have data removal options will first show you an ad for using a removal site. Because that way, they at least get a cut of the proceeds when you sign up. Data brokers don't get much benefit from people doxing $some_random, other than a few dollars for every thousand people who do that. But, they can get $10s of dollars for when $some_random signs up with their affiliate link.

So, you have a clear conflict of interest with onerep not blocking data brokers from their affiliate. It probably doesn't go very deep, but with the subscription-based nature of these privacy services you start to wonder what happens when you churn...

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