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Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#72

When the fuck is this going to stop! Microsoft lost this monopolizing tactic in a court case decades ago. It seems either no one remembers this fact or that Microsoft hopes it's so. Regulators will you please damn-well regulate. In simple English, do your fucking job.

To be fair to the regulators, they have been busy lately:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-sues-googl...

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/09/...

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/01/...

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/12/...

https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2024/01/...

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#73
post #55

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The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching that horrible "does it all, but poorly" corporation.

> The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching I've been seeing this sentiment since 2001 at least. No one ever follows through; if they did we would have seen this already in the desktop stats. You will, whether you consciously realise it or not, switch to playing windows exclusive games the minute all your games run on Linux, hence you will never switch.

>I've been seeing this sentiment since 2001 at least. No one ever follows through; if they did we would have seen this already in the desktop stats.

There has been an inflection point crossed lately, because of Proton and the Steam Deck. Linux is at 1.95% market share on Steam today. A year ago it was 1.3%.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

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It’s weird right? 1. keeps me firmly on the platform, I find it a delight how often things “just work”. Run a linux app? Just works. Hook up some niche 15yo printer? Just works. Run a game/demo made 20 years ago? Just works. Even MS Paint very much still just works. It all just works and then the perfectly good Mail app is forcing my mom to switch to the new Outlook, which is Mail, but messier, with ads. What? I wish…

> I wish Satya Nadella would pull a Steve and yell at some people for this shit. Just to check, are you suggesting a Steve Ballmer yell or a Steve Jobs yell?

Hahaha o yea forgot :-) I mean a Steve Jobs yell, not sure that a Ballmer yell would’ve worked equally well on the product people.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#75

They even let Edge running at startup in the background - ignoring that my choice on Windows will always be Firefox. https://techcommunity.microsoft.com/t5/articles/startup-boos...

Aha... thanks for reminding me. Firefox asked me yesterday if I wanted to let it run on startup. The options were "Activate" and "Not Now" To me this reads like it's going to behave like many apps nowadays, there is rarely a "No, go away", but only "No, but annoy me again in the future". One time after an update Firefox loaded a page that said "Thank you for loving Firefox". Eww, no? God damnit, why do I tolerate suc…

> there is rarely a "No, go away", but only "No, but annoy me again in the future"

Same with those damn YouTube shorts. They even have a dedicated button in the toolbar that cannot be hidden, on the mobile app.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#76
post #70

MacOS allows you to "hard click" (long click) a text selection in any application, which pops up a bubble that lets you do a web search for that phrase. But the search only launches Safari. I wasted at least a couple hours scouring boards and kext files, screwing with automation macros, trying to find a way to make this potentially helpful shortcut not open Safari, but instead open Firefox. Eventually I just gave up.…

Safari and Firefox does not allow other search engines also. For Chrome/Edge I have added a lot of small shortcuts for IMDB, post tracking codes, geoip and many more "not search" things to search bar. Just keyword and %s in search url is needed.

Wait, what? There's OpenSearch and web extensions which let you add more search engines (removing builtin ones is harder though).

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#77
post #26

Windows just keeps getting weirder. There's this regrettable dichotomy between (1) a rock solid OS core with great features like Hyper-V, PowerShell and exceptional back-compat, and (2) a crap, sluggish, inconsistent UI slapped on top, laden with ads, "Rewards" Points and tracking.

I don't know, Windows 11 came with many things I've wanted for years:

- notepad with tabs

- shell UI with tabs, VT-100 support and ability to replace the shell

- Paint.net with AI

- even Windbg has massively improved

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#78
post #71
post #46

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Do Mozilla next, Mozilla!

Deep analysis of Pocket and other crapware would be nice.

Well, of course we use Pocket if the native browser bookmarking function doesn't save the full text of the page for search. Why can't we have the tiniest improvement for bookmarking in browsers in 25 years? It's like they took an oath to never improve it.

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#79
post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching that horrible "does it all, but poorly" corporation.

> The second all my games are fully compatible with Linux natively, I'm ditching I've been seeing this sentiment since 2001 at least. No one ever follows through; if they did we would have seen this already in the desktop stats. You will, whether you consciously realise it or not, switch to playing windows exclusive games the minute all your games run on Linux, hence you will never switch.

>if they did we would have seen this already in the desktop stats

Well you can see it. Linux is used by 4.25% of all English speaking Steam users. And its trending upward.

https://www.gamingonlinux.com/steam-tracker/

Re: Over the edge: The use of design tactics to undermine browser choice

#80
post #70

MacOS allows you to "hard click" (long click) a text selection in any application, which pops up a bubble that lets you do a web search for that phrase. But the search only launches Safari. I wasted at least a couple hours scouring boards and kext files, screwing with automation macros, trying to find a way to make this potentially helpful shortcut not open Safari, but instead open Firefox. Eventually I just gave up.…

Safari and Firefox does not allow other search engines also. For Chrome/Edge I have added a lot of small shortcuts for IMDB, post tracking codes, geoip and many more "not search" things to search bar. Just keyword and %s in search url is needed.

Just for the record, you can absolutely change the default search engine in Safari and Firefox. I use kagi in both, so bangs are supported everywhere.
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