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Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by saltminer »

Vigorosotuna96 wrote: post #42
JohnFen wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally, I just expect Teams to be janky. At least where I work, I don't think that a day goes by that it doesn't glitch out in one way or another.

Spot on analysis. It's a broken product, most of the time, for me.

The place I work at now uses Teams, and I legitimately didn't notice anything amiss.

- Channels randomly taking several minutes to load or outright refusing to load? Normal

- Calls dropping on a fast, stable ethernet connection? Normal

- Messages not sending, or appearing to send but silently never arriving/being dropped upon arrival? Normal

- Messages double- and triple-sending? Normal

- Messages being sent out-of-order? Normal

- Messages sending extremely slowly? Normal

- Attachments not loading? Normal

- Teams deciding logging in is just too difficult and I have to restart it at least once? Normal

I remember when I got an email today about an apparently outage describing all of the above (minus the call instability), I was like "wait, it's not supposed to be like this?"

And now that I type this out, especially having used Slack in the past, I realize what an indictment of Teams that is. (But I've also worked at a place that used Lync/Skype for Business/whatever they're calling it now, and it still manages to be pleasant compared to that mess. Though I won't give MS any credit there; the bar was on the floor, and they managed to avoid tripping over it.)

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by buildbot »

krisoft wrote: post #65
easton wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And those places use it because it’s free. You’re already paying for Exchange or Office, so Teams comes free. Nobody believes it’s the best product, but it’s 70% as good as Slack for free.

You are absolutely right. To me this kind of bundling is absolutely infuriating. I wish we could literally outlaw it. At work we just transfered from zoom to google meet. We did this while everyone who expressed an opinion agreed that zoom is simply a superior product. And we did it because “we are already paying for it with our google docs subscription”. It is just so anti-competitive I can’t even believe we collect…

What's the alternative though? I don't like anti-competitive behavior at all, however thinking about what the regulation would be, I am just not sure there is any viable way. You have a few cases where the EU will go after whoever for bundling a browser, which is not really a solution. Are companies only allowed to sell products individually and never discount or bundle anything? What is a "complete" product? Is it Office? Word? Windows? - Which the EU has already said is conglomerate of products given the whole IE thing. It seems tricky.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by m348e912 »

I am sheepishly going to chime in and say I recognize many of ms teams shortcomings but I actually cringe when I have to join meetings on zoom or god forbid, webex. Joining meetings in teams and sharing screen works decently well for me and I do it enough that I am fairly satisfied with it.

Could it be lighter weight? Yeah for sure. But I am definitely not running into the same issues that some people are seeing on this thread.

What I have recognized is that if you don't have teams installed and have to join a teams meeting via your browser, it might work like 10% of the time.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by winrid »

m348e912 wrote: post #73

I am sheepishly going to chime in and say I recognize many of ms teams shortcomings but I actually cringe when I have to join meetings on zoom or god forbid, webex. Joining meetings in teams and sharing screen works decently well for me and I do it enough that I am fairly satisfied with it. Could it be lighter weight? Yeah for sure. But I am definitely not running into the same issues that some people are seeing on t…

I will say that WebEx has worked every time I've used it.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by virusduck »

winrid wrote: post #75
m348e912 wrote: post #73

I am sheepishly going to chime in and say I recognize many of ms teams shortcomings but I actually cringe when I have to join meetings on zoom or god forbid, webex. Joining meetings in teams and sharing screen works decently well for me and I do it enough that I am fairly satisfied with it. Could it be lighter weight? Yeah for sure. But I am definitely not running into the same issues that some people are seeing on t…

I will say that WebEx has worked every time I've used it.

I think they’ve improved since 2021, but back then when someone sent me a webex invitation I’d feel secondhand embarrassment for them. It was BY FAR the worst of the videoconferencing platforms despite having a huge head start.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by foobarian »

m348e912 wrote: post #73

I am sheepishly going to chime in and say I recognize many of ms teams shortcomings but I actually cringe when I have to join meetings on zoom or god forbid, webex. Joining meetings in teams and sharing screen works decently well for me and I do it enough that I am fairly satisfied with it. Could it be lighter weight? Yeah for sure. But I am definitely not running into the same issues that some people are seeing on t…

I think teams is fine for meetings, but I shudder in cold sweat at the thought of using it for chat as well (instead of Slack).

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by peteradio »

ziml77 wrote: post #68

I wouldn't have realized this issue if a coworker wasn't looking at my screen, seeing the messages they had sent 10 minutes prior just popping up. There was no way I could have known they were late because the timestamps in Teams were the time I received the messages instead of the time the messages were sent. On his end there was also nothing indicating that there was a delivery problem. At the very least Microsoft…

I think messages need to show sent time and received time. I had basically the opposite issue recently:

1:23 Coworker: Hello

1:24 Me: Hello

[20 minutes elapse]

1:44 Me: Did you need something?

[No notifications until leave for the day]

[Checks back hours later and the conversation appears as]

1:23 Coworker: Hello

1:24 Me: Hello

1:25 Coworker: Could you herp the derp?

1:30 Coworker: Nm got Mo to herp the derp.

1:44 Me: Did you need something?

1:45 Coworker: Nah I'm good.

Re: Microsoft Teams outage causes connection issues, message delays

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Post by portaouflop »

myko wrote: post #64
portaouflop wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is MS a monopoly when it comes to workspace tools? Seems to me there are plenty of alternatives and I am lucky enough that I never had to use it at work.

If your org uses Microsoft products, typically a Teams license is baked in (or at least was at some point). So when it comes to choosing a better tool vs Teams it is an easy decision for the bean counters - we're already paying for Teams, let's just use it.

For sure - maybe I read GP in bad faith, but I understood it as “we have to choose Teams in my org because it’s a monopoly”

Few things frustrate me more than being forced into an unproductive situation - completely kills my motivation.

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