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Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#71

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Mars has weather, unlike the moon. Will the samples really still be there a decade or two from now?

The samples are meant to survive the vacuum of space but can't handle some weather? That seems unlikely.

How erosive is the vacuum of space meant to be?

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

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Designed for five, lasted 72, not too shabby.

Extraplanetary missions are almost always many times longer than initially designed because the initial mission is largely limited by the budget which includes the price of the people here on Earth and the time available on the Deep Space Network. Building a rover robust enough to last way longer than the basic mission is a blip in the budget when you include that and the launch costs so they keep being run until the…

With the rovers its pretty much a given that they'll out last the initially stated 90 day mission. They're much more expensive and carefully crafted for the task.

Ingenuity is special because it's commercial off-the-shelf parts put together on a low-ish budget. It (as well as various other aspects of Perseverance) has shown that Mars can be tolerable for off the shelf hardware, rather than needing bespoke million dollar projects for everything.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#73

From the article: The Perseverance rover is currently too far away to attempt to image the helicopter at its final airfield. I wonder if the rover couldn't proceed to the location of the helicopter and get some high res images for diagnostic purposes. I'm sure they considered that option so maybe the rover's schedule is just too busy to accommodate such a mission. Anyway, R.I.P. Ingenuity and kudos to Nasa for anothe…

Rover time and mission resources are definitely limited and a concern, but apparently the location of the copter is also really inconvenient to access. Its sitting down in a valley middle of big sand ripple field. So its not clear if the rover could reach there even if they wanted to.

That being said, not all hope is lost. While closeups are unlikely, the rover is driving in that general direction so there is (very slight) possibility to catch the copter in some lucky drive-by pic from a distance.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#74

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I contributed to the helicopter design for it so I'm biased but I think it'll happen eventually even if the funding isn't approved this administration/year/decade. The already-stashed samples will be up there basically forever, and we'll probably want samples from a few different areas anyways, so it makes sense to go grab them.

Mars has weather, unlike the moon. Will the samples really still be there a decade or two from now?

We are talking about 6 inch long titanium tubes. What do you imagine the weather doing to them in a few decades?

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I contributed to the helicopter design for it so I'm biased but I think it'll happen eventually even if the funding isn't approved this administration/year/decade. The already-stashed samples will be up there basically forever, and we'll probably want samples from a few different areas anyways, so it makes sense to go grab them.

Mars has weather, unlike the moon. Will the samples really still be there a decade or two from now?

Yes, they will. The weather on Mars can't do much to metal tubes. They probably won't be buried either (the area they're in doesn't get much net deposition, you can tell from how rocky it is), but if that does happen, each sample's position and the terrain around them is very precisely mapped so it would be extremely unlikely that any get completely lost.

https://mars.nasa.gov/news/9337/nasas-perseverance-rover-com...

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#77

I just interned at the NASA office (at Ames) that designed large chunks of and did a lot of flight planning / analysis for Ingenuity. It had some really awesome people behind it and its success inspired a number of new Mars rotorcraft missions (rotorcraft will be an integral part of Mars Sample Return). Flight is going to be a huge part of future solar system exploration efforts and Ingenuity paved the way. o7

> o7

I never came across this emoticon, but with what you wrote, its meaning became clear immediately. It's perfect.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#78
post #77

I just interned at the NASA office (at Ames) that designed large chunks of and did a lot of flight planning / analysis for Ingenuity. It had some really awesome people behind it and its success inspired a number of new Mars rotorcraft missions (rotorcraft will be an integral part of Mars Sample Return). Flight is going to be a huge part of future solar system exploration efforts and Ingenuity paved the way. o7

> o7 I never came across this emoticon, but with what you wrote, its meaning became clear immediately. It's perfect.

Same, I thought I was terminally online but I've never seen this before.

Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#79
post #77

I just interned at the NASA office (at Ames) that designed large chunks of and did a lot of flight planning / analysis for Ingenuity. It had some really awesome people behind it and its success inspired a number of new Mars rotorcraft missions (rotorcraft will be an integral part of Mars Sample Return). Flight is going to be a huge part of future solar system exploration efforts and Ingenuity paved the way. o7

> o7 I never came across this emoticon, but with what you wrote, its meaning became clear immediately. It's perfect.

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Re: Due to blade damage, Mars Helicopter Ingenuity will not fly again

#80
post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 1993, to Richard Garriott, for just $68,000: https://www.space.com/8073-privately-owned-soviet-moon-rover...

Richard Garriot aka Lord British who made the Ultima series of videogames?

Yes. Also a space tourist.
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