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Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by rvnx »

nickthegreek wrote: post #66
rvnx wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never heard of it. Never saw it anywhere. If nobody can hear the sound of a tree falling, does it still make a sound ?

You never heard of the Quest 3?

Not at all, but it makes sense if it's a niche product addressing the needs of a subset of gamers.

Look for example Among US VR (an excellent game):

https://steamdb.info/app/1849900/charts/

There are 12 players online now, 22 players "peak"...

A lot of people have tried VR, and the consensus is generally that VR is fun to try once but then:

Is it really worth spending 1000 USD (headset only + whatever gaming PC you need with it) 4000 USD (vision pro) for something you'd use only few times per year ?

To follow the hardware news related to something you don't plan to purchase nor use doesn't really make sense.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by KeplerBoy »

rvnx wrote: post #49
tw04 wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>What are they going to do? Buy AMD, yeah right. Build their own? It's what Microsoft, Google, and AWS are doing. >Nvidia's sales are only limited by the number of wafers they can get from TSMC. No, they're limited by the cost per operation vs. Facebook building their own. The cloud providers have already decided it's cheaper to do it themselves. Sure they'll keep buying GPUs for general public consumption but that m…

At some point Google Cloud, AWS, Alibaba Cloud, Apple, etc are going to make their own specialized chips (Google tried a bit with their tensors chip). There is no value into the NVIDIA-part by itself, only the raw power is interesting. If tomorrow this is AMD, or China-Town chip, it's perfectly fine. I wouldn't miss the CUDA toolkit mess.

If raw power per dollar would be all that's interesting we'd all run 7900 XTX clusters like geohot in his tinybox.

We are not, because there's clearly value in the CUDA ecosystem.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by nomel »

rvnx wrote: post #57
nomel wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In my opinion, HMD are clearly the future of display tech. VR is something you get for free, with an HMD.

A (dystopian) future is more likely the Neuralink injecting visual signals or thoughts. Even an ultra-light HMD gives the Glasshole feeling, besides not being comfortable to wear.

> Even an ultra-light HMD gives the Glasshole feeling, besides not being comfortable to wear.

Which have you had experience with? And, do you believe whatever you wore was as good as it gets?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by Tenoke »

rvnx wrote: post #71
nickthegreek wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You never heard of the Quest 3?

Not at all, but it makes sense if it's a niche product addressing the needs of a subset of gamers. Look for example Among US VR (an excellent game): https://steamdb.info/app/1849900/charts/ There are 12 players online now, 22 players "peak"... A lot of people have tried VR, and the consensus is generally that VR is fun to try once but then: Is it really worth spending 1000 USD (headset only + whatever gaming PC you n…

Quest 3 is $500, not $1000 and needs no external PC. Your choice of game is equally bizzare.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by nomel »

formerly_proven wrote: post #37

A stockpile of rapidly depreciating assets bought at eye-watering margins is an unusual brag for any company, no?

From a naive perspective, it seems that true research/advances in AI (methods of training, etc) aren't necessarily related to model size. It seems that the goal of "building a big model that everyone else converges to because the training data is the same" doesn't have all that much value, especially since you could wait a couple years, do it all for a fraction of the price, and catch up immediately. Meta doesn't have an AI product yet, so it's not like they would be loosing money.

I suspect this is more about talent attraction/retention.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by nickthegreek »

rvnx wrote: post #71
nickthegreek wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You never heard of the Quest 3?

Not at all, but it makes sense if it's a niche product addressing the needs of a subset of gamers. Look for example Among US VR (an excellent game): https://steamdb.info/app/1849900/charts/ There are 12 players online now, 22 players "peak"... A lot of people have tried VR, and the consensus is generally that VR is fun to try once but then: Is it really worth spending 1000 USD (headset only + whatever gaming PC you n…

>Is it really worth spending 1000 USD (headset only + whatever gaming PC you need with it) 4000 USD (vision pro) for something you'd use only few times per year ?

The Quest 2 is a perfectly capable VR device and is only $250.

>To follow the hardware news related to something you don't plan to purchase nor use doesn't really make sense.

You are on hackernews.. a site that has talked about the Quest 3 A TON.

https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by slowmovintarget »

paxys wrote: post #3

> Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence So...what happened to that whole "Metaverse" thing? Is it time to rename the company again?

How would one manage a fully connected VR-scape without AGI?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg’s new goal is creating artificial general intelligence

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Post by cheschire »

That's such a crazy scale to consider that it makes me wonder how easy it is to maintain control over that many cards, and how easy it would be for someone at a company of this scale to become a purchasing tunnel to countries with sanctions.
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