Order/license chaos for VMware products after Broadcom takeover

Post by fred_is_fred » Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 2:51 AM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #49

hitpointdrew wrote: post #32

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Like what? There is no real open source comparable option to VMware if are running your own hypervisors. KVM? Not even close, you need a host of other tools to get what you have with esxi and vcenter. You’ll spend months just finding and configuring a disjointed hodgepodge of tools to get what you could have setup in a day. And even then you have a fargile system that is likely to break any time you update one tool i…

> There is no real open source comparable option to VMware if are running your own hypervisors Well the first question is, do you actually need hypervisors? In a lot of cases, the answer is no, or not for many of the workloads. In others it's 100% yes. Then, after you've decided you actually do need a hypervisor, there's actually tons of choice - Proxmox (very good and advanced KVM wrapper), Nutanix's AHV, oVirt (fut…

Post by AviationAtom » Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 3:31 AM UTC

azalemeth wrote: post #5

RockRobotRock wrote: post #3

You can find working vSphere keygens on some sketchy site. I encourage anyone in a tough spot to use one. You paid for the product, fuck them.

Honestly that's the sad story behind drm in a nutshell. Pirates get a better product.

Post by sofixa » Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 7:28 AM UTC

grepfru_it wrote: post #66

sofixa wrote: post #15

It's embarrassing how poorly Broadcom have rushed into throwing the baby out with the bathwater for no reason. They could have taken a slower approach instead of doing everything as soon as the deal officially closed... I hope they lose as much business as possible over this, everyone should be looking into alternatives because they're such a shitshow.

>everyone should be looking into alternatives I'm interested to hear this community's take on what an alternative to vmware is. And I'm not talking about just ESX, I'm talking about their entire ecosystem including vsphere and all of it's features that an enterprise environment depends on.

Post by linsomniac » Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 1:41 PM UTC

nunez wrote: post #34

linsomniac wrote: post #19

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We use ganeti and I'm ridiculously happy with it. When I came on board we were using ganeti for dev/stg and VMWare for production. But the difficulty of monitoring VMWare (we were moving away from SAN to local storage, and doing a RAID array monitor was a PITA) and administering (via Windows GUI, which I had to run via a VM on my Linux workstations), plus the licensing weirdness (clusters of size 5 were a sweet spot,…

I used ganeti 10 years ago at a company I was at. It was really great then. Glad to see it's still worked on.

Post by grepfru_it » Tue, Jan 16, 2024, 4:06 PM UTC

sofixa wrote: post #75

grepfru_it wrote: post #66

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>everyone should be looking into alternatives I'm interested to hear this community's take on what an alternative to vmware is. And I'm not talking about just ESX, I'm talking about their entire ecosystem including vsphere and all of it's features that an enterprise environment depends on.

No two environments are the same. Instead of looking for a like for like total replacement (even though you actually don't use all VMware features or use some only because they were the only way possible in VMware's ecosystem and not because they're actually any good (vRA, Log Insight)), evaluate your actual needs and what do you need to run under what conditions. You'll probably end up discovering that any of Proxmo…