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Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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When installing the update, some users are finding themselves faced with an 0x80070643 error, a generic failure message. Unfortunately, according to Microsoft, "because of an error in the error code handling routine," this might not be the correct error. Error in the error code code is giving the wrong error code for the error. I'm curious how often the error code code needs touching that there is an error in there t…

Love it. I'm lmao now at such craziness.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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Except for if you want to use dual monitors, etc. etc. Every time I've tried Linux, I've had to dive into the terminal and paste commands from the internet to get normal things to work.

Only two monitors? I've no problem with more than that. I don't know what hardware you're using, but that's atypical.

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Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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FTA: "Showing an unhelpful error message and then requiring a user to delve into the world of the command line to fix things. What is this? Linux?" What did the author want, a button to push for each solution to every possible exotic error, even critical ones that would require to resize a system partition from a running OS? Seriously!? Of course one solve this through the command line. Or, if that wasn't what the au…

The beauty of Windows is that you have one-button-push-solutions that just work. If Linux would have that too, maybe even tech-unsavvy-users could handle it, but since Linux is made from freaks for freaks that won't happen. I mean, Linux people can't even see the problems of a not-one-click-solution, but for every normal user it's crystal clear. Command line is for tech users and really for nobody else. Nobody who isn't into tech want's to write in command shells, really, nobody!

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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post #55

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I use Linux. You absolutely need to drop down to the command line at times. Upgrading my Kennel, or Graphics driver breaks something like 20% of the time for me.

That's way higher than my experience. I had a kernel update break a memory management API that JavaScript engines use about a year ago, and then before that my last kernel induced update breakage was in like 2012 with fglrx. That broken kernel update also would not have made it into more conservative distros, as the change was rolled back 5 days later. Meanwhile I have previously experienced the windows issue in this…

nVidia on Linux is particularly nasty in that aspect.

I've administrated a fleet of ~100 Ubuntu devices that used nVidia for some AI stuff - unattended-upgrades disabled and all that - and yet graphics drivers broke in regular intervals, every couple of months. Apparently, nVidia drivers have some system in place that can update drivers on its own. The only solution was to uninstall all nVidia drivers, upgrade all packages, then re-install nVidia drivers.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

#76
post #7

When installing the update, some users are finding themselves faced with an 0x80070643 error, a generic failure message. Unfortunately, according to Microsoft, "because of an error in the error code handling routine," this might not be the correct error. Error in the error code code is giving the wrong error code for the error. I'm curious how often the error code code needs touching that there is an error in there t…

Wait until we'll start seeing error messages like "I Cannot Fulfill This Request It Goes Against OpenAI Use Policy".

Then we'll know why QA went bad.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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This is why I am extra vigilant, pendantic and strict when writing or reviewing code that handles exception and error paths. More than happy-path code, I want this to be simple, rediculously easy and very loosely coupled. No inheritance, no abstractions, very shallow dependency trees and so on. Just once too often did a bug in exception handling cause a system to go down - It is often not or hardly covered in tests (…

This attitude seems a little silly to me—being "extra vigilant, pedantic and strict" about happy-path code would necessarily imply the same about "exception and error paths". Generally speaking, bugs mostly appear in a binary fashion and not in varying degrees—ie your code either reflect expected behavior or doesn't.

You'd be surprised at how many await's it takes to produce a try/catch. The attitude of being extra vigilant, pedantic, and strict around exception and error paths forces the happy path to be as well defined as it possibly can be given the requirements. It's defensive programming. Assume everything will break in ways you don't know about when writing it. Especially true for async/await code. I don't find it silly. It's like a seasoned sarge telling you not to pull the pin on that baseball object you have in your hand.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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Exit code 139. Hm.

That's usually not the full error message, and you can still easily find the number's meaning by opening the man page of wathever piece of software terminated with that exit code.

Likewise, if you knew about err.exe, you'd also know how to be able to get the error message behind the error code.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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Had the journalist tryied Linux, would have known that it gives much better error messages than some random looking number.

It's about one-click-solutions what makes Windows a nice-to-use-tool, not the error messages.

Re: Microsoft suggests command line fiddling to get Windows 10 update installed

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> Unhelpful error codes, complex fixes ... When did Windows turn into Linux? Hmm

Yup. These are the people society put in charge with keeping us informed. They'll probably need to take jobs are janitors once ai replaces them, as they are prime candidates given how unreliable their writing is.

Why, it's a funny pun against Linux and it's true, so where's the problem with the writing?
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