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Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by midasz »

woleium wrote: post #30
usr1106 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> printers, which used to be a good business Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I us…

Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.

I almost never have to print and in the rare exception I do I go to the library.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by insaneirish »

mrweasel wrote: post #55
shrubble wrote: post #4

It's sad, HPE will suck out all the life-force of Juniper; I have had other HP-acquired products and they never got better in subsequent offerings, only worse.

We have been testing equipment from other vendors, so that we could replace Juniper in the future, it needed. Those plans just became much more relevant, unless the plan is that Juniper takes the lead on HPE networking. HPE would have been purchased by Micro Focus is it wasn't a hardware company. It's really sad to see the decline, HP actually made some nice stuff, 15 - 20 years ago.

> Those plans just became much more relevant, unless the plan is that Juniper takes the lead on HPE networking.

Rami (Juniper CEO) is staying and leading.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by insaneirish »

mrweasel wrote: post #57
jgalt212 wrote: post #9

> Accelerating AI-Native Networking Leadership I think I just threw up in my mouth.

I would very much like someone in charge at either HPE or Juniper to explain to me in plain English what that means exactly, in practical terms. I doubt it means anything.

They are focused on their Mist product line which uses machine learning to troubleshoot and root cause issues.

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Post by coxley »

dbmnt wrote: post #19
AdamJacobMuller wrote: post #12

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Having worked with every vendor under the sun for networking equipment across my career, I enjoy working with Juniper by far the most. The configuration syntax works as expected, it's flexible but extensible in the right places and mostly has lots of knobs to tune things but without requiring extensive boilerplate to get things to work as expected. The hardware seems to fit intelligent niches and actually does what i…

I'm just curious, why would you want to run unsigned code on a Juniper device? What is the use case?

Custom collection daemon or other type of agent.

Re: Juniper Networks to Combine with HPE

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Post by polski-g »

nightfly wrote: post #11
jasoneckert wrote: post #8

I remember working with Juniper equipment a decade ago (I didn't like it because I've traditionally worked exclusively with Cisco equipment), but I haven't heard anyone in my circles mention Juniper since. Are they considered a niche vendor today (similar to Novell in the 2000s)?

My work has been buying Juniper switches lately since CISCO has largely priced us out.

We switched to Juniper during COVID because the delivery times were like 9 months for Cisco

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Post by SkipperCat »

wmf wrote: post #37
SkipperCat wrote: post #20

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Companies go with Juniper because they can outfit a data center at half the price of Cisco. NYSE did that a decade or more ago with their Mahwah data center. Its not really a bad strategy. If you're going to have a large team of network engineers work continuously on a the Juniper tech stack, they'll get use to it - even if they were raised on Cisco IOS. Juniper stuff works just as well as the rest of them.

But Arista is probably half the price of Juniper so that doesn't make much sense.

But Arista only has switching hardware and a few other specialty devices (L1 switches from their Metamako purchase). Vendors like Juniper offer load balancers, firewalls and everything else you need for managing a data center or company.

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Post by briffle »

bombcar wrote: post #35
usr1106 wrote: post #33

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I print well below 100 pages a year. What would be the price per page using an enterprise grade printer?

If you get a used one, might not be that bad. But a consumer Brother is probably the way to go. Always search the model number and see what people say.

My $100 brother laser printer I bought 6 months ago has printed everything I asked (dozens and dozens of pages) from Windows, Linux (well supported linux drivers!) and our families mix of apple and android phones.

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Post by dpkirchner »

woleium wrote: post #30
usr1106 wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> printers, which used to be a good business Good business as in earning money or as producing customer satisfaction? I don't know about the former, but I do know that HP printers are a horrible user experience these days. The printer is connected via USB, but it cannot be used without an internet connection to their data collection and ink selling cloud nonsense. I will never by anything from that brand again. (I us…

Never buy a consumer print device. The enterprise kit from HP is still good.

IMO you're best off avoiding products from any company that sells garbage at any tier, whenever possible. They're taking advantage of people and creating large amounts of e-waste.
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