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Hopefully other countries can also start using more commonly available fishes for sushi/sashimi and don't just stick to tuna because of historical reasons.
Tuna (horrific overfishing) and octopus (intelligence) are the two animals I won't eat.
Amusing anecdote - I used to eat octopus whenever I could get my hands on it, but always as an ingredient in a larger dish - e.g. chunks of octopus in a stew or sauce. One day I ordered octopus tentacle from a tapas bar, and it arrived whole (and beautifully presented as a centerpiece of sorts). This surfaced many memories of nature documentaries demonstrating the wit and resilience of the octopus. Looking at the del…
Melanie Joy speaks wonderfully on this subject and your realization: https://www.richroll.com/podcast/melanie-joy/
I'd be in favour of removing meat subsidies. If the 'true' price of steak or a burger was ten times higher people would eat it for special occasions and not every day with every meal. It's telling and hypocritical how many meat eating 'libertarians' are in favour of government handouts to preserve their food eating habits rather than letting the market do it's work. I'm a meat eater but I'll concede that those subsid…
Can you give an example of a 'meat subsidy'? I'm unaware of any.
The EWG attempts to enumerate the federal subsidies, which, by its count, total some $50bn directly to livestock producers since 1995, plus $160bn to farms that produce mainly feedstock for the meat. [0]
To be fair, EWG’s count includes disaster assistance, COVID subsidies, and direct compensation for losses related to Trump’s trade war-all of which is consistent with what the feds provide for any industry.
But in agriculture particularly, in the US as in most territories, the stated rationale is to protect farmers. The idea being they can’t control the weather, but one bad year can wipe them out through no fault of their own. And these types of failure, from the vicissitudes of nature and of market conditions they couldn’t have foreseen, can be coordinated across a region or market in a way that makes it hard for conventional insurance to handle.
But they also don’t look at subsidy programs beyond those direct payments to meat and dairy producers; skilled (though motivated) observers seem to estimate that larger number at close to $36bn/yr in 2013 terms. [1]
To get to that larger number you’d probably include consumption-side subsidies like school lunch programs, marketing support, and backstopping private crop insurance; and you’d include the major crops like corn and soy that, while not directly bound for the supermarket shelf, will end up feeding humans as well as livestock in some form. Or as ethanol shrug. The kinds of subsidies that the EWG counted toward the 160bn-since-1995 in [0].
Their broader point though was that the latter type of subsidies aren’t subsidizing things you or I would call a fruit or a vegetable and buy at the grocer and eat directly (those are [0] https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/2022/02/usda-livestoc...
[1] https://jia.sipa.columbia.edu/news/removing-meat-subsidy-our...
As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…
We'll probably just figure out a way to switch to farming these fish or something very similar to them once we finish destroying the wild ones in the ocean.
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Maybe. Cod suddenly collapsed by like 98% but never went extinct.
Probably a dumb question but why hasn't cod rebound on the east coast? The fishing moratorium has been in place for decades now, shouldn't the population have increased exponentially since then?
[1] https://oceansfirstjournal.files.wordpress.com/2016/08/ocean...
Tuna (horrific overfishing) and octopus (intelligence) are the two animals I won't eat.
The speciesism in this comment is profound, as if you have some empirical evidence an octupus is more intelligent than, say, a pig; or whether a creature's lack of ability to reason (versus feel pain and suffer) gives way to treat it cruelly.
Alligators may seem "dumb", but they're smarter than us, if you go only by success. We don't know what all those nice sunbathes do for the animal.
Could bring the same joy and nastagia as climbing to the top of the mountain. Who are we to spoil this? How is it different from the joy we experience, or that of an octopus, pig, dog, ect as it frolics in the fields?
As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…
Pescatarian diets are as healthy or more healthy than vegetarian or vegan ones, and much easier to adhere to in terms of getting the required proteins and amino acids.
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>That is something that can be done at a local level without global cooperation. You're assuming some foreign operator won't come to your local waters to illegally fish. China has shown they will fish literally anywhere they can get away with it. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/09/26/world/asia/ch...
So has Japan.
https://www.seafoodsource.com/news/supply-trade/japanese-leg...
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Maybe. Cod suddenly collapsed by like 98% but never went extinct.
Probably a dumb question but why hasn't cod rebound on the east coast? The fishing moratorium has been in place for decades now, shouldn't the population have increased exponentially since then?