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Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by ozim »

blehn wrote: post #35
xyst wrote: post #30

The problem here is that people are not trained on YOUR implementation. Everything you have listed here is very nice to have (offline mode, interoperability, …) , but MS (with O365) or G (with G Suite) are often available for free to students, teachers, and professors at critical stages in life. Just look at Apple with their productivity suite (Pages, Numbers, Keynote). The market penetration is probably worse than L…

You could've said the same about Notion and its current valuation is at least 10B. Don't let this kind of feedback deter you, OP.

Valuation cool, but are they profitable or still burning money.

As a solopreneur you don’t have piles of cash to burn to make people use it.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by csmpltn »

One of the most important features to get right for tools like this is collaborative editing. It's incredibly difficult to get this right (live preview, conflict resolution, history management, etc), especially given how the vast majority of users are non-technical folks (which aren't used to toolks like git). Could you expand a bit on how you intend to tackle this problem in Nino?

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by harrisonlo »

laserDinosaur wrote: post #60

"Unlimited free trial" I finally found the pricing page (it's strange only having it in the footer and not the top of the site), and I guess you are referring to the free tier. Which is both NOT a trial (it doesn't expire) and NOT unlimited (there's a 10K block limit). The copy there is confusing since it's actually the opposite - a limited free tier.

Thanks for pointing that out. I actually had "generous free tier" but worried some people might not think it's generous...I'll think of something better

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by not_your_mentat »

This looks really neat!

I'd be interested in giving it a try, but doing so would replace existing tools and workflow. As a user, I'm unwilling to do this is I can't both own my data and application hosting.

If Nino doesn't pan out and the product gets shut down, how do I continue to access my now (trigger warning, words used to describe as I understand, not critique) tightly coupled proprietary data? Can I self host? Is source code available? Are document formats open? How do I not get screwed as an enthusiastic adopter in the unhappy case that things don't work out? If I put my data in and the product isn't working for me, how do I get my data out?

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by callalex »

Edit: I want to start with something nice since this discussion seems like it could be overwhelming you. Nice job on the name, it’s short, memorable, and works in many languages while not already being associated with something else.

If I build my business on your platform but your funding dries up next year because you didn’t 10x enough times to hold gnat/VC attention what happens to all my stuff?

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by prismatix »

harrisonlo wrote: post #54
samwillis wrote: post #24

I would love to know a little more about your tech stack and architecture? You say "Everything is saved locally by default", with full office support. Essentially you have built a "local-first" app, or about 10 of them! I would definitely play on that for marketing, the local-first place is getting quite a bit of buzz. (I'm biased, but I think 2024 if the year local-first is going to go mainstream) What tech are you…

It's on GCP and 99% "serverless" with TypeScript + React frontend. Flutter for mobile apps and Electron for desktop apps (planning to switch the desktop apps to Flutter too once their desktop frameworks are more stable) Noted on the "local-first" term, thanks! I thought about doing CRDT in the beginning, but because not every block type is text, I simplified the implementation to last write wins. Note that every para…

Interesting you say that because I've always felt like a big drawback of Google Docs is the inability to see the floating cursor. It doesn't feel as immersive as, say, Figma editing. However, I'm just one person and my opinion doesn't speak for them all! It'd be interesting to see an A/B test with this sort of functionality.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by harrisonlo »

samstave wrote: post #32

(I know this is out of scope, but I LOVE this - and just some other-think: So - crazy LLM idea for you: Rather than NEW - give me a prompt box: "make me a sheet of all my movies and grab the IMDB ratings and sort my library amd then give me a publishable page to my blog" Such comments make your app more powerful. HOWEVER - Making a new sheet is really FN confusing, https://i.imgur.com/Pd64RUk.png Am I supposed to cre…

Awesome idea. Thanks!

For the Sheet module, when you create a new field in the modal view, it'll be available to all other records too within the page, as you probably found out.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by usernamed7 »

> app that supports 18 modules, saving you time from switching and integrating between different providers.

this is not a compelling pitch. I can tell you this and other "problems" you identified have not been real problems in places i've worked. you're trying to play the same game that google and microsoft are losing at. that's not a solid strategy.

I think you should take a page from basecamp and focus on a subset of these that small businesses would be interested in.

Re: Show HN: I made an app that consolidated 18 apps (doc, sheet, form, site, chat…)

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Post by pbronez »

harrisonlo wrote: post #70
YPPH wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't mean any disrespect, but I made an incredibly basic doc - the JSON export is unlikely to be helpful, and the HTML export is essentially broken for a lot of features, such as an equation. I think that getting perfect PDF exports should definitely be up there on the priorities. Might help you hone the document model too.

Noted. You're definitely not the only one asking this, so it's top on the list. Side note: I did start implementing PDF exports, but for anyone curious, it's actually a lot more complex than imagined. There is no easy way to turn HTML to PDF (if anyone knows otherwise, please share) and there are font and language complications.

Perhaps you could target the PanDoc AST for export (and import!). That’s probably the single most robust document conversion tool available. Plus it’s open source so you can get some force multiplication on all the edge cases.

Personally, I’d love to do contract management with a system like this. Each clause could be a block with its own version control history. Easy to query a subset of them into a spreadsheet or slide deck. Main challenge is that all the lawyers will want it in MSFT Word for tracking changes during negotiations, so need to seamlessly interoperate with .docx

https://pandoc.org/

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