Everyone's getting ghosted, the new normal in tech recruiting

Post by wombat-man » Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 5:48 PM UTC

k310 wrote: post #34

I recall getting feedback from one or two companies at which I attended day-long interviews. I had to ask, and after the "well, we can't tell you that," got a couple of "we hired someone with more specific experience with XYZ". Otherwise, many days sent down a black hole, followed by beers, to recover from the day's ordeal. My wild-ass hyperbolic guess is that once they make a choice, staying silent is their way of g…

Post by nradov » Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 5:48 PM UTC

tracerbulletx wrote: post #49

frognumber wrote: post #20

One of my top lessons I've learned doing successful startups: 1. Recruiting is the #1 job of any startup CEO, and the #1 determiner of corporate success. 2. Up market, down market, side market, it doesn't matter: You will get better employees if you treat candidates with respect and you will be more competitive. 3. It's a lot of work for the 95% of clowns out there you interview, and there's a push towards automated…

You'd think if professional sports could figure out how important this is we could too, but for some reason there's a tendency to give it lip service then put absolutely no effort into doing a good job. Scouting and screenings are done by people that companies treat like dirt, we incentivize them only for body count, interviews are done by low experience employees and employees who don't even like interviewing. We do…

Post by skeeter2020 » Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 5:51 PM UTC

piloto_ciego wrote: post #21

boring_twenties wrote: post #8

Every time I've been passed over for a job, I've been notified in a timely manner. I would consider anything less to be grossly, outrageously unprofessional. It's never happened to me, but if it ever does, you best believe I am going to name and shame the hell out of that company. Everyone deserves to know, and people like this don't deserve to have anyone working for them.

I’m trying to get started in this field, I am finishing grad school in the spring and applying everywhere… I mostly hear nothing. It is incredibly unprofessional.

Post by tracerbulletx » Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 5:51 PM UTC

nradov wrote: post #73

tracerbulletx wrote: post #49

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You'd think if professional sports could figure out how important this is we could too, but for some reason there's a tendency to give it lip service then put absolutely no effort into doing a good job. Scouting and screenings are done by people that companies treat like dirt, we incentivize them only for body count, interviews are done by low experience employees and employees who don't even like interviewing. We do…

In professional sports there are objective metrics and performances are largely in public. In knowledge work there are no reliable metrics that apply on an individual level and you have to rely on candidates themselves (plus perhaps some unreliable references) to understand work history. It's a fundamentally harder problem.

Post by sshine » Fri, Dec 29, 2023, 5:53 PM UTC

skeeter2020 wrote: post #54

This is NOT the new normal, and we should NOT accept it. Everyone here should do their part; for example, I'm more often a hiring manager and will not tolerate ghosting anyone who gets to any interaction with engineering. IME it's lazy recruiters who are responsible for this, and they're about as big of a part of tech as an accountant, i.e. very little. I don't understand why many people are hesitant to name and sham…