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Re: Generation Junk

#71

So this article implies that a number of things that we buy previously were built to last longer, and indeed did last longer. The first few examples are kitchen appliances. In this case I don't really know, but I'm at least willing to listen. Ultimately the evidence is people responding to a thread on Twitter where he solicited complaints. Not so compelling. But then he mentions a "hybrid sedan". Here I'm aware of th…

Totally irrelevant links — the assertion was about hybrid cars, those links speak to cars overall.

The Toyota Prius debuted in the US in 2000. I’d argue 23 years is simply not sufficient to make an argument about long term reliability—particularly given that sales took a while to ramp, and any issues in, say, the first 10 years are likely to be dismissed as teething problems.

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#72
post #4

I feel arguments like this always ignore the fact that buying a toaster in 1950 was a major investment for a family, and if you want to spend $2000 on a high-end toaster in 2023, which is probably equivalent in inflation-adjusted price to the 1950s toaster, it will probably also be very nice.

A lot of the high end stuff is crap too. You get a toaster with wifi and a touch screen and an app instead of something that works.

You can buy commercial versions of most machines which will be much better quality and without the stupid touch-screen gimmicks. They might cost 10x as much but that's also how much more domestic ones used to cost back in the day.

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#73
> I can’t say the same about my coffee grinders. I use the plural because I’ve owned a lot of them, all bought in their original packaging and dead within a year. They’re good ones, supposedly, with burrs not blades, but they stop performing before long, ending their long journeys from overseas factories in unmarked graves in my local Montana landfill.

I purchased a Capresso Infinity Conical Burr Grinder from Amazon.com on Aug 21, 2020 for $157.94 and have used it, at a minimum, once per day every day I have woken up at home for three years (at least 1,000 times) and it shows no signs of slowing down.

If my definition of "a lot" correct and is "greater than three" then the author might want to have his or her wiring checked.

Also, as far as staples go, premium staples that can fasten (practically) paper to sheet metal are $0.20 more per 1,000-count than garbage staples. Buy the premium staples that come in a plastic box with a hinged lid instead of the cardboard bricks of staples and you'll never have a jam again.

> The two or three new pens I use each week that, because no ink comes out of them

Ok this is just ridiculous.

TWO TO THREE. PENS. PER WEEK. This has moved into the realm of satire.

Buy Pilot G2 pens. Problem solved. They'll still write after going through the wash.

Where is this person getting their pens?

What are they doing to their pens?

What is going on?

Am I high?

That being said I have nearly no problems with the quality of any purchases I've made because I pay, at a minimum, the inflation adjusted equivalent of what I would have paid 20 years ago for the same product. I also research everything obsessively. Like, read the manual and watch YouTube teardowns of microwaves before buying a new microwave obsessively. I have many fewer things than most Americans but all of my shit is the nicest it can possibly be within my budget.

The race to the bottom is a race I do not participate in.

The bottom is where the junk is.

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#74

I’ve had to buy a lot of furniture and other things for my new house this year, and one of the things that really sticks out to me is that practically every category of product seems to be split into a bimodal distribution: cheap crap & luxury boutique. There are practically no entries occupying the middle of the market that are on the basic end regarding features & frills but also high-quality. It’s incredibly annoy…

Your furniture buying experience exactly mirrors mine. There’s some kind of hard cut at around 5000-7000 dollars to goods that exceed ikea quality.

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#75
My advice on electric coffee grinders: just buy a manual one with a hex shaft, and drive it with a brushless drill. I've been making drill coffee for years now.

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#76
I _love_ Walter Kirn.

> Weak-link computer chips in items that don’t require them also came in for abuse.

Indeed.

I cannot recommend his podcast with Matt Taibbi [1] or the print-only newspaper he edits-at-large [2] highly enough. The man is an American treasure.

[1] https://www.racket.news/s/america-this-week

[2] https://www.countyhighway.com/

Re: Generation Junk

#77
post #4

I feel arguments like this always ignore the fact that buying a toaster in 1950 was a major investment for a family, and if you want to spend $2000 on a high-end toaster in 2023, which is probably equivalent in inflation-adjusted price to the 1950s toaster, it will probably also be very nice.

A lot of the high end stuff is crap too. You get a toaster with wifi and a touch screen and an app instead of something that works.

Yeah the problem is legibility. It's easy to see a touchscreen, or to understand a WiFi connection. But it's harder to understand why you should rant an oversized motor that will only be run at half capacity.

Features that increase longevity or repairability are considerably less legible to most consumers and therefore get removed first when trying to cut costs.

Re: Generation Junk

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A toaster in 1951 was $21, which is about $250 today. I would argue that a $250 toaster today is still not a "buy it for life" item, but it would certainly have a lot of bells and whistles and almost no user-serviceable parts.

Toasters are an interesting case study. I went on a tear last year after being fed up with every toaster doing the same bad job. I thought maybe someone made a proper toaster. What I found is that when you pay more the coat of paint gets nicer and maybe there's an MCU+LCD, but the guts and logic are identical. There is no good commercially available toaster today. It's sending a very loud message about how markets op…

Either I'm having insanely good luck or I have extremely low expectations of a toaster, but I genuinely don't understand how a toaster does "bad job".

What were the issues you were having?

Re: Generation Junk

#79
post #4

I feel arguments like this always ignore the fact that buying a toaster in 1950 was a major investment for a family, and if you want to spend $2000 on a high-end toaster in 2023, which is probably equivalent in inflation-adjusted price to the 1950s toaster, it will probably also be very nice.

Exactly! You can still get kitchen appliances that last, but you need to be prepared to purchase pro catering equipment.

High quality toasters still exist - be they in conveyer belt form, salamander grills, or the old stalwart: the Dualit professional models.

The same applies to microwaves, hobs, ovens, ranges (combined hob/oven), et al.

Re: Generation Junk

#80
From The Bitcoin Standard:

"The reduction in the purchasing power of money is similar to a form of taxation... As people start spending more and saving less, they become more present oriented in all their decision making... this helps explain why civilizations prosper under a sound monetary system, but disintegrate when their monetary systems are debased."

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