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Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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> FERRET is trained on 8 A100 GPUs with 80GB memory. Huh, even Apple isn't capable of escaping the CUDA trap. Funny to see them go from moral enemies with Nvidia to partially-dependent on them...

I guess they also have Samsung fridges in the offices..

I don't get it, does Apple also make fridges now?

Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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You're unlikely to get a better experience with Siri if she becomes equipped with a 7B or 13B LLM, unless Apple figured out something revolutionary.

Note that “using an LLM” doesn’t just mean “plugging user queries straight into an LLM”. Enhancing Siri will probably be an ensemble project.

This is part of the mismatch between comparing Alexa/Siri/Cortana to a chat based LLM right now. If you just want chat and info retrieval, today’s LLMs are way better then the conversational dialogue, search, and q&a capabilities any of those assistants have. But, if you want relatively predicable task completion for things like smart home control, timers and alarms, real time weather updates, etc. (basic but frequently used interactions) or any integration with your phone or computer directly, there’s a lot to do that isn’t solved yet in the LLM space and is more of a system integration and action choice problem that the existing assistants have been hammering away at for years.

Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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Why would they dogfood Apple Silicon for training models? Seems like a waste of developer time to me.

Apple doesn’t even sell NVidia cards on their Mac Pros. Are they training it on Linux? I think Apple would strive to be great at all computing related tasks. “Oh, Macs are not good for that, you should get a PC” should make them sad and worried. AI/LLM is the new hot thing. If people are using Windows or Linux, you’re loosing momentum, hearts and minds… and sales, obviously.

If a train with a GM diesel engine delivers raw materials to a Ford factory for making F150s, you would conclude that consumers whould start driving trains to work?

Is that your argument?

Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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post #48

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Why would they dogfood Apple Silicon for training models? Seems like a waste of developer time to me.

Apple doesn’t even sell NVidia cards on their Mac Pros. Are they training it on Linux? I think Apple would strive to be great at all computing related tasks. “Oh, Macs are not good for that, you should get a PC” should make them sad and worried. AI/LLM is the new hot thing. If people are using Windows or Linux, you’re loosing momentum, hearts and minds… and sales, obviously.

Don't think that follows. I doubt all their cloud services run on Apple hardware. They make consumer devices.

Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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post #48

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Why would they dogfood Apple Silicon for training models? Seems like a waste of developer time to me.

Apple doesn’t even sell NVidia cards on their Mac Pros. Are they training it on Linux? I think Apple would strive to be great at all computing related tasks. “Oh, Macs are not good for that, you should get a PC” should make them sad and worried. AI/LLM is the new hot thing. If people are using Windows or Linux, you’re loosing momentum, hearts and minds… and sales, obviously.

Apple doesn't even support NVidia cards on their Mac Pros. The technical details are above my head, but the way Apple M* chips handle PCIe make them incompatible with GPUs and other accelerator cards. Whether you use macOS or Linux.

Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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post #56

> FERRET is trained on 8 A100 GPUs with 80GB memory. Huh, even Apple isn't capable of escaping the CUDA trap. Funny to see them go from moral enemies with Nvidia to partially-dependent on them...

I guess they also have Samsung fridges in the offices..

And probably Intel processors and Linux in their datacenters.

Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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Because the first word is "multimodal" :^) and also because MLLM is the established initialism.

My point was the phrase already contains the word model. Why are we calling it a multimodel LL model? Why not just add multi to the existing model?

Multimodal, not multimodel. Multimodal referring to the different possible modes of input (text, picture) into the model.

Re: Ferret: A Multimodal Large Language Model

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post #72
post #46

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Note that “using an LLM” doesn’t just mean “plugging user queries straight into an LLM”. Enhancing Siri will probably be an ensemble project.

This is part of the mismatch between comparing Alexa/Siri/Cortana to a chat based LLM right now. If you just want chat and info retrieval, today’s LLMs are way better then the conversational dialogue, search, and q&a capabilities any of those assistants have. But, if you want relatively predicable task completion for things like smart home control, timers and alarms, real time weather updates, etc. (basic but frequen…

I would argue that “info retrieval” is also something the LLM space has yet to yet to solve to a human level of reliability, but I think your comment is right on. I see this all as part of the greater symbolic vs. stochastic (/neat v scruffy) dynamics

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Rumors suggest they’re gearing up to make iOS 18 an AI focused release. It’ll be interesting to see if they offer different capabilities for online/offline scenarios, or if their offerings are strictly offline. Here’s one story to offer some context. There are others. https://archive.is/en3VL

> Rumors suggest they’re gearing up to make iOS 18 an AI focused release. Don't underestimate Apple at disappointing enthusiasts like you and me. We've been hearing many awesome stories about the next thing Apple will do, only to realize their marketing team chose to keep it for future iOS/MBP/iPhone generations to keep the profits high.

I think your expectations are wrong. They sit there in silence with a few leaks here and there and some github projects, people speculate and get all excited about extrapolating those things. Then Apple deliver what works which may or may not be related to it.

What they don't do is sell you a lie a year before release then deliver shit (like every other fucking vendor).

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