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Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by utybo » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:02 AM UTC

bayindirh wrote: post #37

szszrk wrote: post #30

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What you disliked about Logseq? Are you good at self-organizing (were you before)? While the initial experience is super confusing and I barely knew what that tool is supposed to do, later on it turned out to be the first tool that helped me keep some structure in my notes. I love note taking but I'm horrible at it, chaotic and inconsistent. Daily notes plus the way logseq easily links articles gave me some decent no…

Logseq is "Everything plus the kitchen sink" when compared to Obsidian out of the box. For me, I already have a daily planning and project management tool, and it's called Pagico. What I needed is a note taking application. Simple, down to earth, knowledge base. A successor to Zim wiki, I may say. That thing is Obsidian. I tried to resist to moving it for so long because it's closed source, but it creates value and e…

Logseq is great, but I definitely agree that everything around it (docs, website, ...) is terrible. They really need to rework their marketing pitch and give proper docs. Right now you have docs scattered across 3 websites, and the only useful one is made in Logseq itself, which isn't a good system for scaling documentation.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by linhns » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:04 AM UTC

Looks cool. My suggestion would be to change your color from purple as it seems ripped off from Obsidian.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by viddo » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:05 AM UTC

Roark66 wrote: post #41

vunderba wrote: post #21

Nice going. I've gone through quite the list of note taking tools from a bunch of unorganized text files, to Microsoft OneNote, to Evernote before it became a total pile of molten garbage, Logseq, and finally settled on Obsidian. There's a healthy ecosystem of plug-ins, searching is highly performant, all of my files are just structured in folders as markdown files so there's zero vendor lock-in, has a very good mobi…

>Evernote I _still_ have some notes in Evernote. Imagine my surprise when I logged in after maybe a year of not using it and now search in text notes is not working unless "you upgrade". WTF? The only good feature of everyone now is that it's easy to export ones notes (I hope that still works). (about Obsidian) >The only downside is that it's not open source Indeed, but a saving grace is that it can just store in a b…

FWIW, I exported all my Evernote notebooks just recently from my old free account. Used https://github.com/akosbalasko/yarle to convert them to Markdown. It also has support for various PKB formats, like Obsidian. Hope that helps!

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by smusamashah » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

This looks very similar to Logseq. I would go as far as calling it a clone because the main page looks almost exactly the same. Logseq has matured a lot over the years, what is PenX doing better than Logseq? From the demo it feels like it's still behind Logseq a lot.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by hellectronic » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

For me it is important to have effective note taking and management. I tried a lot of note taking apps myself and I am not satisfied with the ones I tried. Even unsuccessful planed and tried to write one myself : ) I used zim-wiki[1] in the past and at the moment I am using Obsidian[2], that is working good for me.

I like the way you use to take notes. I know it from Workflowy [3].

Everyone has some personal approach and use cases for taking notes. From taking only notes for a grocery list to a full-fledged personal wiki system. And it is important to figure out what PND (pain/need/desire) your application should really satisfy.

[1] https://zim-wiki.org

[2] https://obsidian.md

[3] https://workflowy.com

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by jbverschoor » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:10 AM UTC

hellectronic wrote: post #75

For me it is important to have effective note taking and management. I tried a lot of note taking apps myself and I am not satisfied with the ones I tried. Even unsuccessful planed and tried to write one myself : ) I used zim-wiki[1] in the past and at the moment I am using Obsidian[2], that is working good for me. I like the way you use to take notes. I know it from Workflowy [3]. Everyone has some personal approach…

For me it's obsidian and noteplan.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by atoav » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:13 AM UTC

uxp8u61q wrote: post #63

atoav wrote: post #32

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Why would I do that? I use only apps that use text files anyways. I am pretty confident I will be able to open them in 30 years.

My point is that I sincerely doubt that these notes will have any usefulness in 30 years.

Depends on which notes you take. I still have academic notes from 15 years ago that are useful.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by redleader55 » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:15 AM UTC

I wonder what's the use for this "https://explorer-api.walletconnect.com/w3m/v1/getAssetImage/..." which fails to load on my Firefox.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by bayindirh » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:15 AM UTC

Brajeshwar wrote: post #51

Al-Khwarizmi wrote: post #48

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In which way does Obsidian "create value and extract structure and knowledge from your Markdown files"? I tried it a few months ago because of all the hype, and from a quick try I didn't see anything useful that my current choice (Joplin) didn't have, but from what you are saying, maybe I didn't try for long enough? I like Joplin, one of its strong points being that it's open source, but I'd be willing to switch if a…

I like Obsidian on the Desktop and not much on the phone where I like iA Writer. As I manage the files and synced, I can use anything to access the files. I can use iA Writer on the Mobile and still access my files, while I edit that on Obsidian on the Desktop. Sometimes, I just open the whole folder in Sublime Text and start editing it or use Draw/Excalidraw to work on something. Obsidian being the primary but I'm n…

iA writer is a great tool for focused writing. I use it for authoring my blog posts, and it's "filler detection" does wonders.

Re: A structured note-taking app for personal use

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Post by fauigerzigerk » Fri, Dec 22, 2023, 10:16 AM UTC

burnished wrote: post #58

fauigerzigerk wrote: post #33

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>incredibly polite disagreement Not sure I agree. Here's one comment by the developer (laurent): "Ok, there's so much wrong in what you write about that it's hard to know where to start. I guess it would help if you had a clue about what you're talking about." https://discourse.joplinapp.org/t/why-im-leaving-joplin-for-...

Sure - but it is a departure in tone and sandwiched by more normal and productive comments (from that dev). It isnt ideal but it is also a pretty normal and minor human mistake (growing frustrated and then short to be specific). And the previous comments were claiming that this project's data was 'proprietary' and not 'open' and the situation was inexcusable, basically because they assumed a database was this big sca…

Sure, it's no big deal and it's completely understandable. I just wouldn't characterise it as "incredibly polite".

I think file system vs database storage is very much about trade-offs. Unfortunately the debate descends too quickly into who is right and who is wrong.

It's always difficult for developers to talk to users who often really don't know what they are talking about. I know that very well.

The only thing you can do as a developer (if you have time and patience) is to translate what users say into the closest thing that does make sense in terms of trade-offs.

But nobody is always patient.