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Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by niccl »

chx wrote: post #15

The beautifully written but not much known Rune Blades Of Celi ebooks no longer can be purchased, as the small publisher is just gone. Of course, the ones I purchased could no longer be downloaded. But want something bigger? Fine. The Wheel Of Time (is that large enough for you?) Complete Edition I bought for over a hundred dollars also can't be donwloaded any more. (And to be more on topic, one of my favorite artist…

> Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them?

My daughter, doing a journalism course assignment, once asked Maddy Prior of Steeleye Span (not a _huge_ artist, but reasonably well known towards the end of last century) about this. Maddy's comment was basically the same. She'd rather you bought something legally, but if it's not available (some of their back catalogue had disappeared) then Maddy thought it was fine to 'pirate' it.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by CaptainFever »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #29

> as Sony just decided to yoink over a thousand seasons—that's right, seasons, not episodes—of Discovery shows from the PlayStation Store Didn't realize Sony owned Discovery, oh wait they don't. So it's actually Discovery who's licensing caused Sony to be legally obligated to remove the shows. Sucks if you bought it but yeah just like the games in your Steam library you never actually owned it, you merely licensed it…

It doesn't matter whose fault it is. Companies are still stealing from the customers.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by rglullis »

bitwize wrote: post #21
dirtybirdnj wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> At what point is a company too large to effectively serve the public interest? I use the term "maxium tribe size" to describe the human capability (or incapability) of extending compassion and understanding to a group. Companies don't fail. People fail within companies. People fail other people and hide behind "limited liability" and the sham that is corporate personhood. Every person has a different MaxT. You may…

The sociologist's term for this is Dunbar's number: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunbar's_number It's about ~150 with some variance between individuals.

I'm developing this theory for a while now that we should break all corporations that are bigger than Dunbar's number: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31317641

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by sertbdfgbnfgsd »

pimlottc wrote: post #70
sertbdfgbnfgsd wrote: post #22

- Download mp3 - Play on VLC. Not complicated.

It’s not that simple for the poster’s use case, which is “play whatever my kids want to hear while we’re in the car”

My kid is only 2 years old, but when he can understand the concept I will be sure to teach him that he doesn't have an arbitrarily large choice, he can only choose from within the options we have available.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by AtiRadeon9700 »

DavideNL wrote: post #66

Anyone else here also still using LogitechMediaServer (and iPeng) to stream their own music? Such an old system (written in Perl), but still runs great! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logitech_Media_Server https://github.com/Logitech/slimserver https://hub.docker.com/r/lmscommunity/logitechmediaserver

I threw that old thing (logitech squeezebox) in the recycling.

With how warm it was in standby I bet it cost more money in power bills than itself don'tcha know.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by averageRoyalty »

Semaphor wrote: post #64
bloomingeek wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where's your proof? Show it and I'll gladly quit buying from them.

If you think bands actually sell albums on one site for $2 that they sell for $10 everywhere else, then I guess you can just go and keep believing. I just think it might be better to not support sites like that and instead torrent directly for free. No need to sealion.

> No need to sealion.

I'm lost. What do seals have to do with this? Is this a typo, or a turn of phrase I've never seen?

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by all2 »

pkdpic wrote: post #60

Glad to see this pop up, its been a weirdly big struggle for me as a new-ish parent. For a while my ancient CD collection and healthy ecosystem of local used vinyl / CD stores had us in a nice routine in conjunction with youtube-dl and my posse of old Sony voice memo usb mp3 players. Then youtube-dl wasn't a thing anymore (maybe it is again?)... Then we had to get a new car (a Tacoma)... No CD player, no aux cable. I…

Youtube-dl still functions quite well. You can even grab the CLI here: https://github.com/ytdl-org/youtube-dl

And occasionally you can find one of their TLDs just by doing a search on DDG or Brave.

Re: Forget spaceships; I just want my music

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Post by BobaFloutist »

pavel_lishin wrote: post #44
chx wrote: post #15

The beautifully written but not much known Rune Blades Of Celi ebooks no longer can be purchased, as the small publisher is just gone. Of course, the ones I purchased could no longer be downloaded. But want something bigger? Fine. The Wheel Of Time (is that large enough for you?) Complete Edition I bought for over a hundred dollars also can't be donwloaded any more. (And to be more on topic, one of my favorite artist…

> Tell me true, if you can't buy them how on earth it is piracy to download them? People would argue that it's up to the seller whether they want to make their creations available. If I don't want to sell you something, then I'd entertain the argument that downloading it anyway is in some sense immoral or unethical. But in your situation, you've already fucking bought it! It's as if you placed a pick-up order at the…

I agree (or at least see the argument) if it's like the original creator who decided they want to keep their hands on the work (or maybe like if a company wants to withdraw one edition of a book to sell a new edition), but in cases where works are orphaned, or the rights are in limbo, or a huge corporation merges with another huge corporation and permanently deletes creators' works for a tax break, I don't think there's any real argument.

If I Johnny writer am like "Ok when I was 15 I thought that many consecutive slurs was funny, but now the alt-right is rallying around what was supposed to be satire, so I want it off the market" that's kind of reasonable. If James Writerson has classics that are kind of out of fashion and got converted to ebooks by Big Publisher™ which was then bought by Bigger Publisher™ who decides it's not worth the money to keep the classics on the market (but also refuses to release them back to the estate of James Writerson or to the general public), that's less reasonable.

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Post by vanchor3 »

xerox13ster wrote: post #24
Syonyk wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wasn't there some recent article about how Bandcamp got acquired by a competitor and is more or less being left to rot on the vine? I agree, the FLAC downloads are a major perk of it, and I'll happily buy music there. But I wouldn't trust it to be around long term at this point. It's too consumer-friendly to exist long term in this modern world we live in. :(

Bought by EPIC, conducted layoffs to crush unionization attempts.

Bought by Epic Games then Epic sold to Songtradr, which is when the layoffs happened.

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Post by Semaphor »

averageRoyalty wrote: post #76
Semaphor wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you think bands actually sell albums on one site for $2 that they sell for $10 everywhere else, then I guess you can just go and keep believing. I just think it might be better to not support sites like that and instead torrent directly for free. No need to sealion.

> No need to sealion. I'm lost. What do seals have to do with this? Is this a typo, or a turn of phrase I've never seen?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sealioning
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