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Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by hnbad »

boppo1 wrote: post #63
ornornor wrote: post #59

Several vets have all told my parents to get mutts rather than purebreds because they have so much less problems. The genetics are just healthier and stronger because they’re a mix, instead of inbreeding for generations. Ditto for cats.

Good move unless it includes pit bull. Pitbull mixes are not appropriate for family pets and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. Please protect your loved ones and stay away from pitbulls and pitbull mixes. They are total sweet hearts, right up until they're not. Edit: I too was once a 'how it's raised' apologist. After a number of experiences and some research, my mind is concluded. Someone in t…

The problem with this widespread belief is that there is no such thing as a "pit bull". Or rather, there are many and some of the breeds are entirely unrelated. Likewise news stories are usually thin on the specifics and fail to identify exact breeds or may mislabel them entirely.

Generally most people shouldn't have dogs because they lack the time and energy to properly train them (or in the case of adult dogs: to compensate for their lack of training). But you're right that there are some dog breeds that are more prone to biting accidents than others: but if you go by the actual numbers your advice should also explicitly apply to German shepherds.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by derstander »

fallingknife wrote: post #7

Do we really need to be using up government resources doing drug approvals for dogs? It takes so long to get human drugs approved. Let's use the resources there and let the market sort out what works for animals.

> Do we really need to be using up government resources doing drug approvals for dogs? It takes so long to get human drugs approved. Let's use the resources there and let the market sort out what works for animals.

Let’s leave aside the fact that humans value companion animals such that they might want to spend government resources on keeping them healthy for longer. And also the fact that certain other animals are important food sources which make up a sizable chunk of the economy.

Do you think that if the government no longer had to spend resources on animal drugs that all of those resources would stay at the FDA and be diverted to human drugs?

The cynic in me thinks that the speed of the process is the independent variable here. And that resources will be added or subtracted to maintain roughly that same speed and/or rigor.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by bbarn »

ornornor wrote: post #54
drakonka wrote: post #14

If anyone here has any anti-aging resources for cats, I'd love to see them. I have two 9-year-old Maine Coons whom I'm supplementing with glucosamine for joint and urinary health, and wonder if there's more I could be doing. Edit: Getting some great tips on core diet and health down below! Luckily we're already doing most of those, and I guess I'm largely wondering about advancements in supplementation or preventativ…

We just lost our cat last week. She was 18 and got a tumor in her nose which became too big. Her kidneys were mostly fine and it wasn’t a concern the last time we checked (about 6 months ago) I think she lived so long because she was allergic to most commercially available food (chicken and beef allergy) so we had to feed her higher quality food with 95+% meat. We also put her water in a different spot or the house (…

> high quality, 95+% meat food (dry and wet, the cat picks whenever she’s hungry)

I think this right here is the smartest thing you can do. Cats are obligate carnivores, and some of the crap in the stores is just fillers they crap out anyway. Same with dog food - they design it to make poop more solid and easier to deal with.

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

hnbad wrote: post #71
boppo1 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good move unless it includes pit bull. Pitbull mixes are not appropriate for family pets and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. Please protect your loved ones and stay away from pitbulls and pitbull mixes. They are total sweet hearts, right up until they're not. Edit: I too was once a 'how it's raised' apologist. After a number of experiences and some research, my mind is concluded. Someone in t…

The problem with this widespread belief is that there is no such thing as a "pit bull". Or rather, there are many and some of the breeds are entirely unrelated. Likewise news stories are usually thin on the specifics and fail to identify exact breeds or may mislabel them entirely. Generally most people shouldn't have dogs because they lack the time and energy to properly train them (or in the case of adult dogs: to c…

Pitt Bulls are responsible for far more attacks. Pitt breeds are responsible for basically 100% of attacks on their own families.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by jurassicfoxy »

jghn wrote: post #45
jurassicfoxy wrote: post #4

In addition, if anyone has an older dog, they should also immediately look into Librela: https://www.zoetisus.com/products/dogs/librela/ This is a miracle drug that pretty much instantly changed both my (older) dogs' lives. Every vet tech I've spoken to (it's a monthly injection) agrees it is amazing.

Are there any limitations on what dogs it'll work for? For instance Loyal's drug is intended for larger breeds only

My understanding of Librela is that it specifically targets arthritis pain. I don't think it has anything to do with the breed, but more about what kind of pain they are in. My bigger, older dog did much better on it, but not as well as my dog with elbow dysplasia, who basically was made brand new again.

The other comments imply the same; it will depend a bit on the dog's condition. That being said, I still stand by my miracle drug assertion. And seemingly side-effect free.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by jurassicfoxy »

mhb wrote: post #43
jurassicfoxy wrote: post #4

In addition, if anyone has an older dog, they should also immediately look into Librela: https://www.zoetisus.com/products/dogs/librela/ This is a miracle drug that pretty much instantly changed both my (older) dogs' lives. Every vet tech I've spoken to (it's a monthly injection) agrees it is amazing.

What does it cost?

I'm paying something like $100 CAD per month, I think? Dog is 33 kg.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by dragonwriter »

hnbad wrote: post #71
boppo1 wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good move unless it includes pit bull. Pitbull mixes are not appropriate for family pets and anyone who says otherwise is lying to you or themselves. Please protect your loved ones and stay away from pitbulls and pitbull mixes. They are total sweet hearts, right up until they're not. Edit: I too was once a 'how it's raised' apologist. After a number of experiences and some research, my mind is concluded. Someone in t…

The problem with this widespread belief is that there is no such thing as a "pit bull". Or rather, there are many and some of the breeds are entirely unrelated. Likewise news stories are usually thin on the specifics and fail to identify exact breeds or may mislabel them entirely. Generally most people shouldn't have dogs because they lack the time and energy to properly train them (or in the case of adult dogs: to c…

> but if you go by the actual numbers your advice should also explicitly apply to German shepherds.

Pretty much everything people say about Pit Bulls today was said about other breeds before, including German Shepards and Doberman Pinschers.

I think the change over time is mostly fashion trends among people who deliberately keep and train dogs for actual or perceived viciousness, and media trends interacting with that.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by ltbarcly3 »

carstenhag wrote: post #69
HEmanZ wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Comparing a family dog to a goldfish is such utter nonsense that you have to be a troll.

On the other hand the absolute majority here (and most in western culture) eat at least something with meat every 1/2 days, and that meat comes from animals that are as intelligent and/or cuddly as dogs.

Chickens are not nearly as cuddly or intelligent as a dog.

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Post by Eumenes »

I recently visited nyc and was hanging out in central park. I saw so many huge dogs, huskies/german shepards/retriever/etc, which made me sick to my stomach. These poor animals need space. They are not biologically designed to be an accessory for the urban rich. Being held hostage in 300 sq foot apartments while their vapid owners are working in some office or on zoom calls all day is borderline torture. These drugs will just prolong said torture.

Re: Anti-aging drug for dogs moves closer to gaining FDA approval

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Post by ornornor »

carstenhag wrote: post #62
ornornor wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We just lost our cat last week. She was 18 and got a tumor in her nose which became too big. Her kidneys were mostly fine and it wasn’t a concern the last time we checked (about 6 months ago) I think she lived so long because she was allergic to most commercially available food (chicken and beef allergy) so we had to feed her higher quality food with 95+% meat. We also put her water in a different spot or the house (…

Isn't it very important to have at least 2 cats, when they are indoors? I was told this by a vet.

I think this depends more on your lifestyle. If you're never home and can't play with your cat, there is nothing to watch out of the windows (birds, nature...), no toys, etc then I guess two cats make sense because they can entertain each other.

But otherwise, it's fine. We were feeling guilty about keeping our cat indoors after the incident (it's not in their nature, etc) but every (North American) vet told us that they'd love it if all the cats they look after were indoors. They'd have way less diseases, wounds, maiming, etc. In Europe, vets weren't as adamant about keeping the cat indoors but they all agreed it's still better than outdoors. Our cat lived both in Canada and Switzerland.

Whenever we were hearing vicious cat fights outside for 10--15 minutes at a time, it felt very nice to look at ours peacefully curled on our bed rather than worrying if that was the sound of our cat losing an eye or getting notched ears and the expensive associated subsequent vet visit. They also require less vaccines from not being exposed to other cats and animals, and even though the vaccines are safe, it's still avoiding the very low chance of an adverse reaction (and the cost of the shot and boosters).

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