So, what's the "other side's" argument in this? Usually these opinionated changes come with some level-headed reasoning behind the changes. Or maybe not?
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#72So, what's the "other side's" argument in this? Usually these opinionated changes come with some level-headed reasoning behind the changes. Or maybe not?
Almost as it's just and only petty power trips.
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#73I don’t fully understand the nature/impact of the change but this conflict seems so minor to me. Like, people on both sides display the same level of entitlement but for different reasons, and they all think they have their are “right”. Hum, no, for outsiders you all appear stubborn and lacking ability to compromise. “Oh my gosh, I’ll have to press 1 extra key now, this project is doomed!”, “no no no, this little cha…
this is why you find in a lot of Operations centers, people have a dozen different systems where time-wasting "improvements" like this have been made over 20+ years, so each little time-wasting "improvement" has added up over time so now it takes like 10 minutes to do something that should take 10 seconds. (in other words, "why does an Airline clerk have to spend 5 minutes typing in order to do something for my ticket/account", or "how did they mess up my request so badly", the answer is what im talking about)
what it all really boils down to is a fundamental lack of respect for other people. if you respected other people, you would not break their workflow like this and then dismiss their concerns as unimportant.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
> emacs is changing very specific behavior, that was intended, to do something new now No? It changes how an existing command behaves. > This commit crippled all user interaction with Emacs registers, turning commands such as C-x r s, once smooth and frictionless, into a cumbersome and painful mess. Concretely, instead of just typing the key for the register you want to operate on, you now get a fully blown minibuffe…
with all due respect c-x r s sounds far from smooth and frictionless to me
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#75Muscle memory should be elevated to a first class concern when it comes to emacs.
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#76I'll summarize my understanding. A commit that changes how copying (actually "registers", which is a bit more general than copying) works in emacs was recently accepted. Now emacs opens up a minibuffer that shows what is happening, requiring one to accept the change by hitting enter or equivalent. The OP thinks this is a terrible, breaking change as it changes default behavior (and possibly without the possibility of…
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#77Obviously the only possible solution is to attempt another fork/reimplementation of emacs. This one will definitely win and not be totally irrelevant like all the others.
Maybe just to persuade the mainline maintainers?
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
> emacs is changing very specific behavior, that was intended, to do something new now No? It changes how an existing command behaves. > This commit crippled all user interaction with Emacs registers, turning commands such as C-x r s, once smooth and frictionless, into a cumbersome and painful mess. Concretely, instead of just typing the key for the register you want to operate on, you now get a fully blown minibuffe…
with all due respect c-x r s sounds far from smooth and frictionless to me
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#79I am a Vim guy. Can someone explain what exactly is broken?
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#80OpenSource working as intended, no?