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It's not "turning against each other", it was Russia's decision alone to break ties with the civilized world.
What is the meaning of civilized world?
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OFAC(Office of Foreign Assets Control) sanctions are clear-cut and they can issue very large fines for non-compliance. These sanctions have been in place for a while now. It sounds like someone flagged this to their legal department, who then advised to go nuclear, given the threat of large fines.
You can go to jail for this, it doesn't just stop at fines.
I am pretty sure Martin Hetzner lives in Germany.
This makes the jail option very unlikely.
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You can go to jail for this, it doesn't just stop at fines.
Hetzner is a EU business which only recently started the US expansion. I am pretty sure Martin Hetzner lives in Germany. This makes the jail option very unlikely.
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What about... what about... what about... Western Europe really tried after 1990 to integrate with Eastern Europe and it worked pretty well for most former socialist countries, but not with Russia and Belarus. And not for lack of trying on behalf of the Western European countries, if anything the West had been too naive for too long.
I'm pointing out clear hypocrisy. That's not whataboutism.
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Why give your money back to a company that treated you like that? It's not that Hetzner is doing this because they care about victims, war, etc., no, it's purely political, as they will not be terminating contracts with American or Israeli citizens. So if I were a Russian client of Hetzner, that would be the last place I'd put my money into.
so even if postal address is changed, it will still mean termination, why?
Because they're not idiots? Hetzner doesn't want to end up in the cross hairs of authorities coming down on companies doing business with sanctioned entities. This is their legal department speaking, not the technicians and a change in postal address is so transparent that it will not work.
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Why give your money back to a company that treated you like that? It's not that Hetzner is doing this because they care about victims, war, etc., no, it's purely political, as they will not be terminating contracts with American or Israeli citizens. So if I were a Russian client of Hetzner, that would be the last place I'd put my money into.
Hetzner isn't doing this for political reasons, they are doing this because there are active sanctions against Russia which the German authorities take serious enough that if you are found to be breaking those sanctions you may be fined, go to jail or both. No such sanctions exist against American or Israeli citizens.
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Hetzner isn't doing this for political reasons, they are doing this because there are active sanctions against Russia which the German authorities take serious enough that if you are found to be breaking those sanctions you may be fined, go to jail or both. No such sanctions exist against American or Israeli citizens.
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