The technology behind this is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Musion_Eyeliner which uses the old Pepper's Ghost trick: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peppers_ghost
A short video that shows how the Musion system works: http://vimeo.com/7047856
Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
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Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#72Was that video image mixed&cut from the videos of his previous performances? Or was it computer generated?
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rebuilding speech/song based on existing phoneme library (i.e. the discography) is already practical and, like everything else in this domain, has been done long ago in japan: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/12/ueki-loid-speech-synt... See also Hatsune Miku/Vocaloid, which is a fully artificial pop star that's been selling out shows (as a hologram since 2009)
I'm not sure if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't imagine we will ever see someone producing entirely new Tupac songs based on his phoneme library. It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. People already get upset that they use old entire recordings to produce new songs, and those are actually his lyrics and his voice.
> bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it
What in hell makes you believes the recording industry has good taste?
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#74I'm confused as to how they got him to say "Coachella". Had he performed there in his lifetime or did they have to create that word from old voice recordings?
I'm pretty sure with enough voice data you can make people say just about anything, and Tupac left behind a ton of voice data.
Yep. See the work of cassetteboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2pFYYEiko (NSFW language)
All they use is soundforge, and it's trivial. You can achieve perfect results with modern software and algorithmic assistance.
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#75I'm confused as to how they got him to say "Coachella". Had he performed there in his lifetime or did they have to create that word from old voice recordings?
I'm going to guess something like C - (r)oach - (f)ella.
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
Rebuilding speech/song based on existing phoneme library (i.e. the discography) is already practical and, like everything else in this domain, has been done long ago in japan: http://www.wired.com/underwire/2011/12/ueki-loid-speech-synt... See also Hatsune Miku/Vocaloid, which is a fully artificial pop star that's been selling out shows (as a hologram since 2009)
I'm not sure if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't imagine we will ever see someone producing entirely new Tupac songs based on his phoneme library. It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. People already get upset that they use old entire recordings to produce new songs, and those are actually his lyrics and his voice.
It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it.
Oh, I'd take that bet. I would even bet that the producers will claim to have been in touch with his spirit.
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm pretty sure with enough voice data you can make people say just about anything, and Tupac left behind a ton of voice data.
Yep. See the work of cassetteboy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m2pFYYEiko (NSFW language) All they use is soundforge, and it's trivial. You can achieve perfect results with modern software and algorithmic assistance.
Wouldn't it be easier to just hire a voice actor or impersonator?
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#78Great question that was asked today was, "would you pay to see a dead artist perform in holographic form"? Think about all the artists you could bring back and have perform for people when using this technology.
Yes. Honestly, I'm not at a show to watch somebody perform their music, I'm there to enjoy that music with a few hundred/thousand other people, and listen to it on a big stereo. It's a socializing thing, not a consumption thing.
I think most people are in the same boat with you. When you are young you tend to push close up to the stage or jump into the thick of things, maybe because you like mosh pits.
When you get older it's all about going to hear how well the band performs live and enjoy a tasty adult beverage. Most entertainment venues I visit now I end up standing toward the back.
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#79Coachella has done a lot of innovative tricks this year. I was impressed that anyone in US could watch three of the stages live on YouTube. Live concert footage and other live videos on the web are going to quickly make TV feel overpriced.
even more impressive that I could watch it from Austria - by now so much content is region-restricted that this was a pleasant surprise.
I was so pleasantly surprised I could watch with no problems from Switzerland.
Re: Tupac image performs at Coachella [video]
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure if this is what you're suggesting, but I can't imagine we will ever see someone producing entirely new Tupac songs based on his phoneme library. It would be in such bad taste that even the American recording industry wouldn't go near it. People already get upset that they use old entire recordings to produce new songs, and those are actually his lyrics and his voice.
To paraphrase the well-known maxim, you can never go broke underestimating the good taste of the american public (over a long enough timeframe). The IP status of the voice is a really fascinating question though, given how complex the current songwriting/master/recording breakdown is already.
> you can never go broke underestimating the good taste of the american public
Is bear-baiting coming back, then?