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Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

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Post by namanyayg »

zozbot234 wrote: post #22
namanyayg wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

- Sheet music: It looks like a completely different language, I don't have an idea of how it works nor can I read it. I can't believe that people can read it without specifically learning it? - Chord charts: Never heard of this and Google doesn't give me anything relevant either. All I'm seeing are pictures of 6 strings with the frets to play highlighted with a dot symbol. If you mean that, then I think that's even e…

> Haven't heard the term, and I'm not from a western country Understood. Indian music uses Sa-Re-Ga-Ma-Pa-Dha-Ni, but it means the same thing. The key to understanding that system is that Mi-Fa and Ti-Do (Ga-Ma, Ni-Sa) are half-step intervals (consecutive frets on the guitar), every other interval is whole step (skip a fret). Historical Western solmization doesn't even use Ti (the indian Ni), so everything always rev…

But how do I know what solfege note I'm playing with a single note, since it's all relative?

From what I can think of, I can either need to know the song's key (and will have to rely on the internet for the same because I don't have perfect pitch?), or I'd need to have at least 3 or 4 notes to figure out what major scale it might possibly be? (And still it isn't enough I might be wrong).

What am I missing?

Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

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Post by LesZedCB »

scop wrote: post #56
boringg wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Right? It was such a great resource for such a long time and then they just butchered it.

I played a ton of guitar in high school and UG was my go-to resource for a lot of stuff. I then stopped for a long time due to career, marriage, kids, etc, only to pick up the ol’ axe again this year. I dutifully opened up UG and was shocked at how horrible it was. Ok fine, I’ll download the damn app you dirty bastards. Oh, you mean I’m still accosted by all the dark patterns in the app too? I can only assume any PII…

woah, me too! stopped during college and I decided to take guitar serious this time and get some lessons which i started in July. it's been a huge improvement and super fun.

check out Plini and Intervals, some of my favorites in the same vein as Satriani.

also, I've found guitar pro to really be worth it. Sheet Happens publishes official tabs, and all their PDF tab books come with guitar pro files as well and theyre pretty good quality. Sheet Happens has a permanent guitar pro discount code too.

Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

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Post by LesZedCB »

titzer wrote: post #62

I hate what ultimate guitar has become. Before it evolved into the current ad-laden, walled-garden rat trap that it is now, it basically was just a search engine for tabs. What amazes me is that so many hobbyists made Guitar Pro tabs in their spare time and uploaded them for free to the internet. Then UG came along and indexed them. For a time, that was good. Now UG operates like it owns that content. It's been so he…

hint, check out the history/revisions button at the top right on songsterr

also, i just learned elsewhere on the thread that musescore is FOSS and loads all formats of guitar pro files!

Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

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Post by zozbot234 »

namanyayg wrote: post #71
zozbot234 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Haven't heard the term, and I'm not from a western country Understood. Indian music uses Sa-Re-Ga-Ma-Pa-Dha-Ni, but it means the same thing. The key to understanding that system is that Mi-Fa and Ti-Do (Ga-Ma, Ni-Sa) are half-step intervals (consecutive frets on the guitar), every other interval is whole step (skip a fret). Historical Western solmization doesn't even use Ti (the indian Ni), so everything always rev…

But how do I know what solfege note I'm playing with a single note, since it's all relative? From what I can think of, I can either need to know the song's key (and will have to rely on the internet for the same because I don't have perfect pitch?), or I'd need to have at least 3 or 4 notes to figure out what major scale it might possibly be? (And still it isn't enough I might be wrong). What am I missing?

When you learn a song by ear, you'll know how each note of it relates to the key (which is the "home" note, and the one that the song might end with). You also know where the half-steps are in the scale. These are basically enough to know your solfège/solmization syllables for that song. Note names and perfect pitch are irrelevant because most of the time you'll be playing fretted notes, so just shifting your hand location on the fretboard lets you play different pitches - the actual "note" pitch is arbitrary. Notes played unfretted (that you can't just move around) are rarer, so you can always think of them as falling outside the pattern and learn them as such.

Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

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Post by pprotas »

Dudester230602 wrote: post #27
schnebbau wrote: post #15

[flagged]

Realistically, he cannot contact all the thousands of content creators. Also I doubt that UG is paying them in any case. He should include author nicknames though. Hopefully, bro scraped the content in case UG bans him. There will not be good electric guitar music past 2010s anyway, so no missing out on new content...

[flagged]

Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

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Post by jquast »

symlinkk wrote: post #53

This is just stealing content.

All of the content is provided by the community, if not directly submitted, ripped from message boards, Usenet, and other websites.

Please don’t think that UG is paying anybody to transcribe (or repair/moderate, desperately needed) the guitar tabs.

Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

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Post by entropicdrifter »

LesZedCB wrote: post #72
scop wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I played a ton of guitar in high school and UG was my go-to resource for a lot of stuff. I then stopped for a long time due to career, marriage, kids, etc, only to pick up the ol’ axe again this year. I dutifully opened up UG and was shocked at how horrible it was. Ok fine, I’ll download the damn app you dirty bastards. Oh, you mean I’m still accosted by all the dark patterns in the app too? I can only assume any PII…

woah, me too! stopped during college and I decided to take guitar serious this time and get some lessons which i started in July. it's been a huge improvement and super fun. check out Plini and Intervals, some of my favorites in the same vein as Satriani. also, I've found guitar pro to really be worth it. Sheet Happens publishes official tabs, and all their PDF tab books come with guitar pro files as well and theyre…

FYI TuxGuitar is a FOSS player that can load/play/edit PowerTab and GuitarPro files. Multiplatform too. It's not completely 100% bug-free, but it's good enough to load and play most tabs flawlessly.

Or for a more robust piece of software (especially if you do tabbing/composing yourself or you want to generate/edit a tab from a MIDI file), MuseScore is also FOSS and can import GuitarPro files no problem. With its recent UI overhauls it's really become top-notch IMO.

Re: Freetar – an alternative front end for ultimate-guitar.com

#80

Post by Andoryuuta »

jampekka wrote: post #39

Ooh, this is a godsend. UG is so full of dark patterns and nags it's almost unusable. It's a travesty and whoever runs such scam on community provided content should do some serious soul searching. Transposing chords doesn't seem to be implemented (or should the plus/minus buttons do that)?

UG is now owned by (Muse Group), which also owns MuseScore, Audacity, StaffPad, etc.

They've had their fair share of controversy beyond just dark-patterns on UG. From adding telemetry into Audacity[0], causing a bunch of drama and multiple forks of Audacity, To (most notably, in my opinion) having their director of strategy, Daniel Ray, publicly threaten to report/have the Chinese government whisk away the developer of a Github repo for a MuseScore sheet music downloader[1]

[0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27727150

[1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27881539

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