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Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by linza »

nmilo wrote: post #54
pier25 wrote: post #5

I like using Chrome and even went back to it after trying FF and Brave 2-3 years ago. But this would really make me look for alternatives, even if those are inferior. It's not even about Youtube. I pay for Youtube Premium. But not being able to block third party cookies would be a deal breaker.

So switch then instead of just talking about it. It's not a big deal, it takes like 1 minute, and no one can seriously tell me you have a significantly different browser experience on Chrome vs FF.

It's very subjective, but I won't try switching again before certain things I value in Chrome are available or work similar well on Firefox. You can switch based on ideology alone but I want convenience more than that.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by Shish2k »

zlg_codes wrote: post #30
jlmorton wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It takes a special kind of hubris to think you're going to develop a browser better than Chrome and Firefox as an open source project. Both Chromium and Firefox are already open source projects. What is the magic sauce that's going to make this effort suddenly produce a perfect browser?

A lack of desire to implement technologies that are harmful to the Web; specifically technologies designed to usurp control from the user and/or its agent. Remove Javascript and 90% of your challenges go away.

Remove HTML/CSS rendering and the other 10% of the challenges go away too. Skip the whole “browser" thing and just use `curl`. Zero harmful technologies, maximum user control - I’m sure all of the users will be flocking to this new approach in no time :D

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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malermeister wrote: post #7

Can we all finally make a concerted effort to switch back to Firefox? I get it, it was slow and bloated when Chrome initially came out and everyone switched. Well, it's not slow or bloated anymore and Chrome is now officially evil. It's time. Don't just switch your own browser. Switch the browsers of all the non-technical folks that come to you for questions.

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Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by Justsignedup »

layer8 wrote: post #22
derefr wrote: post #15

Two questions I haven't seen addressed by any coverage of this change: 1. Will the ultimate removal of Manifest V2 support affect other Chromium-based browsers, or only Chrome itself? If the support for Manifest V2 isn't removed upstream in Chromium, but only disabled in Chrome, then I would expect that we will end up in a world where other browsers (e.g. Edge, Brave, Opera) continue to allow the installation of Mani…

One reason Google wants to remove V2 support is to make implementation changes that V2 currently prevents. This means that a Chromium fork that preserves V2 support will likely have to diverge further and further from Chromium over time (or rather, Chromium will diverge).

which hopefully means Brave and friends will switch to being based on Firefox instead. Could lead to some positives.

Alternatively it could be that all alt browser companies will maintain one chromium fork that preserves manifest v2. Or V3 but with a lot more rules.

Re: Chrome pushes forward with plans to limit ad blockers in the future

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Post by paulcole »

flir wrote: post #52
vivzkestrel wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

majority of the people will still use Chrome even if Google literally delists all blockers from the planet. One major reason being "browser migration". The guys on HN crying foul on most of these articles are a vocal minority. This s Google's version of "corner the market and raise the prices". They ll lost 2-5% market share at max

There's an evangelist effect - Apple benefited from it a lot way back when (less so now). Where techies lead, others tend to follow. That 2-5% might be the first few pebbles in the avalanche.

The “techie” “evangelist” network effect is a thing of the past.

Today it’s all about mobile.

Nearly everybody uses their phone for everything and they aren’t making choices about which software to install on their personal laptop.

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