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Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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rmse17 wrote: post #52

Let us think - how is an engineering department taught by mostly non Engineers? Odd I know, but rumor has it CISE does it. Not so with EE/ECE. BTW, CISE instructors are welcome to join EE/ECE - most of their research is done together already anyway. But hey, who cares about figuring out all of the details, lets just make this a sensation like all the other BS news.

The department is "Computer and Information Science and Engineering" - only a subset of the department consists of what would be generally regarded as "engineering", and the people teaching engineering courses have the relevant expertise in their fields.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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dfranke wrote: post #11

I graduated from UF in 2007 and have in no way since kept up with departmental politics, but as of then, CISE was a bit of a Frankenstein creature. As an undergraduate, if you were looking for a computing-related degree, you had five possible majors to choose from: * Computer Science (College of Liberal Arts and Sciences; CISE Department) * Computer Engineering with Software Emphasis (College of Engineering; CISE Dep…

I graduated in 2002, and the situation was even more convoluted then.

There was no "Computer Science" major available; the traditional CS curriculum was known as "Computer and Information Sciences", which, due to the acronym, can be confused with a MIS-equivalent degree (I once had a manager who insisted that I show him the course catalog for my major to prove I studied the relevant CS topics). The MIS/IT curriculum was offered as "Decision and Information Systems".

And despite the CISE department being a part of the College of Engineering, the CS curriculum was offered as an independent major only by the liberal arts and business colleges. I opted for the business college, so my actual degree is "Bachelor of Science in Business Administration with a major in Computer and Information Sciences", wording which is rather poor at conveying that this is indeed a CS degree.

I don't think they got around to renaming the degrees until 2004-2005.

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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dfranke wrote: post #11

I graduated from UF in 2007 and have in no way since kept up with departmental politics, but as of then, CISE was a bit of a Frankenstein creature. As an undergraduate, if you were looking for a computing-related degree, you had five possible majors to choose from: * Computer Science (College of Liberal Arts and Sciences; CISE Department) * Computer Engineering with Software Emphasis (College of Engineering; CISE Dep…

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Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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Post by Gormo »

uf_cise_alumnus wrote: post #45
dfranke wrote: post #11

I graduated from UF in 2007 and have in no way since kept up with departmental politics, but as of then, CISE was a bit of a Frankenstein creature. As an undergraduate, if you were looking for a computing-related degree, you had five possible majors to choose from: * Computer Science (College of Liberal Arts and Sciences; CISE Department) * Computer Engineering with Software Emphasis (College of Engineering; CISE Dep…

No clarity will result. The two Computer Engineering Degrees (software and hardware) are to be combined into one that has N (not yet decided) tracks that will be supported by "certificate programs." So, now you reduce by one clearly defined separation and increse by n-1 less well defined certificate programs.

Why not just have a CE major, with CS and EE minors available?

Re: University of Florida shutting down research in Computer Science department

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Post by Gormo »

JoeAltmaier wrote: post #57
wpietri wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Great point. After all, computer science is a relatively unimportant discipline. It's obviously a waning field. As we've seen in the news, people with CS degrees don't make much money and almost never get rich, so they are unlikely to donate to schools later on in life.

AsI understand it, there are several CS departments in the college. Several tomato plants.

No, they're potatoes. The CISE ones are conveniently chopped into french fries. Turlington's is still raw.
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