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Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Makes me wonder whether to keep building upon OpenAI? Given that they have an API and it takes effort to build on that vs. something else. I am small fry but maybe other people are wondering the same? Can they give reassurances about their products going into the future?

I'm in this boat. Not for my startup but for side projects I was absolutely pinning my hopes on them unlocking access to tools and relaxing some of their restrictions in the near future.. a future which now seem unlikely.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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My prediction: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38309611&p=7#38311488

So here's my theory which might sound crazy. Sam planned to open a new AI company and taking away openAI's top talents to his company. And breaking up openAI into non profit and his for profit company.

Sam's first tweet after all this has, just hours after this article:

> will have more to say about what’s next later.

So either he knew that he was about to be fired or at least was prepared.

Also based on the wording of the press release, Sam did something that the board absolutely hated. Because most of the time even if he did something illegal it doesn't make sense to risk defamation by accusing him publically. Also based on his video of yesterday at the APEC summit, he repeated the similar lines few times:

> I am super excited. I can't imagine anything more exciting to work on.

So here if we assume he knew he was about to get fired, the conclusion is clear.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

#73

Makes me wonder whether to keep building upon OpenAI? Given that they have an API and it takes effort to build on that vs. something else. I am small fry but maybe other people are wondering the same? Can they give reassurances about their products going into the future?

I’d recommend trying to build out your systems to work across LLMs where you can. Create an interface layer and for now maybe use OpenAI and Vertex as a couple of options. Vertex is handy as while not always as good you may find it works well for some tasks and it can be a lot cheaper for those.

If you build out this way then when the next greatest LLM comes out you can plug that into your interface and switch the tasks it’s best at over.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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While I don’t know what is happening in OpenAI, from my experience(long enough to have an opinion), top people often leave when the employer is doing well or passing the last hurdle because, by that time the employer has gained adequate presence and brand identity that anyone leaving can immediately end up in top FAANG or equivalent Corps with much better benefits and of course pay/equity and other things. Only time…

FAANG would probably be viewed as a step down from OpenAI at this point (or at least until today)

Nothing wrong with greener pastures/lower steppes

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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Is it a bubble if it’s useful and I use it dozens of time a day?

I agree AI is useful, but not to that extent to what it is valued on the market. I do not think that AI companies can deliver as much as they promise. With the driving core at OpenAI basically gone, I bet they will soon implode under the weight of their promises. Which means, investors will start pulling out their stakes. boom

> I agree AI is useful, but not to that extent to what it is valued on the market.

I agree, it's greatly undervalued!

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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post #55

While I don’t know what is happening in OpenAI, from my experience(long enough to have an opinion), top people often leave when the employer is doing well or passing the last hurdle because, by that time the employer has gained adequate presence and brand identity that anyone leaving can immediately end up in top FAANG or equivalent Corps with much better benefits and of course pay/equity and other things. Only time…

I don’t know if people realise that there really isn’t any more prestigious place to work at right now than OpenAI. You don’t leave there for a better opportunity.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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AI art is already boring. its all a fad, eventually the cracks start to show and you can't unsee those cracks. very similar to bitcoin. tbh.

You're one of the ones who used to call bitcoin "buttcoin" didn't you? Very sure of yourself, very wrong.

Seeing btc is still quite useless apart from a few legitimate reasons, otherwise mostly being used for illegal purposes: yes, btc is a failure.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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The way Sam and Greg were fired maybe led him to no longer have faith in the company and so he quit?

More like the guy who engineered this situation is an asshole and they don't want to work for him.

Who's the situation-engineer for some of us duller but curious folks?

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

#79

Are those the first cracks in the AI market bubble?

I think something terrible happened at OpenAI and we just don't know what it is yet, we will eventually. But I believe something unethical happened, something that might be even illegal. For the board to remove the CEO, it means that the board doesn't trust him anymore.

Re: Three senior researchers have resigned from OpenAI

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post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI art is already boring. its all a fad, eventually the cracks start to show and you can't unsee those cracks. very similar to bitcoin. tbh.

You're one of the ones who used to call bitcoin "buttcoin" didn't you? Very sure of yourself, very wrong.

after i lost everything in the mtgox scandal, i used my last bitcoin to buy a lenovo thinkpad, which i used to learn computer programming and network engineering.
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