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Meta's head of augmented reality software stepping down

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Re: Meta's head of augmented reality software stepping down

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Post by rabf »

ryandrake wrote: post #62
autoexec wrote: post #40

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> In my opinion, the technical know-how of Zuck was perfectly valid to build Facebook, but not this. Technical know-how is the least of their problems. The tech is irrelevant to me. Facebook's user-hostile and abusive actions have made it so that now anything they make is automatically something I want nothing to do with. In my opinion, no matter how good the tech is, anyone foolish enough to participate in Facebook'…

> Technical know-how is the least of their problems. The tech is irrelevant to me. Facebook's user-hostile and abusive actions have made it so that now anything they make is automatically something I want nothing to do with. You got it! I have an original Oculus Rift (CV1) and when they were bought by Facebook it was like a kick to the gut. Felt as if Philip Morris or Monsanto bought the company that made my beloved…

Given that Meta has been losing money on every headset they sell I think you should be buying up as much of their hardware as you can.

Re: Meta's head of augmented reality software stepping down

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Post by taneq »

PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote: post #52
WhatIsDukkha wrote: post #9

Its kind of underappreciated how much of a failure their entire software stack is (Bosworth should be the first to leave). For those paying attention, the technical VR "stuff that works" is basically written by Qualcomm. The user side Android system is, really badly done and irritating for people using it as people like Carmack have pointed out. This is possible the biggest software development blunder in history, th…

> This is possible the biggest software development blunder in history I hate to be that guy, but please google "therac-25". There's been absolutely no loss of life, just software shittily written. Yes, it's a blunder, but the hyperbole is unwarranted here.

The Therac-25 issue apparently only caused six known incidents. If you want an example of software killing people, how about the 737 MAX MCAS issue, or the Toyota unintended acceleration issue?

Re: Meta's head of augmented reality software stepping down

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Post by taneq »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #61
zimpenfish wrote: post #58

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> I hate to be that guy, but please google "therac-25". Or "UK Post Office Fujitsu".

Beyond safety critical applications the Dutch automated welfare-fraud detection system (SyRI) also jumps to mind. Wrongful debt, convictions, children removed from their parents homes, and even suicides.

Australia's 'Robodebt' system likewise issued a whole lot of unjustified fines etc. and caused a lot of pain for a lot of people.

Re: Meta's head of augmented reality software stepping down

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Post by bitwize »

jayd16 wrote: post #65
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I write applications to run on the quest and it's miserable. Simply getting your apk onto the device is the most unnecessarily difficult things I've ever seen. In order to unlock developer mode, you have to have a Facebook account with your phone number associate with a Facebook developer group for your company which requires additional verification to set up. Then you are required to install the oculus app on your p…

Is it really that hard? Make a meta account, make an org, use an app to enable dev mode, then just use the usual Android stack.

Is it really that hard? Just put your firstborn in the machine and get on with it.

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Post by JacobAldridge »

seydor wrote: post #67
JacobAldridge wrote: post #57

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I think everyone on Twitter still calls it Facebook, but not sure if every Google employee thinks differently.

But does everyone in Facebook call Twitter X?

Only if they know their Alphabet

Re: Meta's head of augmented reality software stepping down

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

taneq wrote: post #73
PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote: post #52

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> This is possible the biggest software development blunder in history I hate to be that guy, but please google "therac-25". There's been absolutely no loss of life, just software shittily written. Yes, it's a blunder, but the hyperbole is unwarranted here.

The Therac-25 issue apparently only caused six known incidents. If you want an example of software killing people, how about the 737 MAX MCAS issue, or the Toyota unintended acceleration issue?

In the Therac-25 case the number of victims is kind of less relevant.

I think the shock factor in Therac-25 is the contrast between the gruesomeness of radiation poisoning and radiation burns and the post-mortem investigation showing the hubris and recklessness of the Software Design team, Risk Management, lack of HW interlocks etc.

MCAS deaths were precipited by greed which is bad but not shocking.

Therac-25 was an entire group of Design, Quality, Regulatory teams just literally YOLOing into patient deaths.

Re: Meta's head of augmented reality software stepping down

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Post by multjoy »

zimpenfish wrote: post #58
PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote: post #52

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> This is possible the biggest software development blunder in history I hate to be that guy, but please google "therac-25". There's been absolutely no loss of life, just software shittily written. Yes, it's a blunder, but the hyperbole is unwarranted here.

> I hate to be that guy, but please google "therac-25". Or "UK Post Office Fujitsu".

That was, at heart, a disclosure issue.

The Post Office knew that their prosecution was unsafe but went ahead with it anyway - they had a duty to disclose to the defence any material in their possession that undermined the prosecution case or advanced the defence case.

This is a statutory duty and a police investigation is ongoing into the prosecution.

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