Sunday service suspended at all NYPL locations

Post by TimedToasts » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 3:35 AM UTC

DANmode wrote: post #67

lapphi wrote: post #49

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It’s interesting how we (as a culture) tolerate people who have broken the social contract. As Americans we’ve really let the bottom fall out. They’re so far away from society they do not care anymore about norms. And we do not care to do anything except let them exist in our spaces to the detriment of the public.

It's a "problem" of a nonhomogeneous populous: the wide range in definition of what maintains the social contract. For some, if they in particular aren't disturbed from their AirPods, murder or other crime is a-ok. For others, if you wear the wrong ratty clothes into the library, you're breaking the social contract.

Post by shortrounddev2 » Sat, Nov 18, 2023, 6:59 PM UTC

1letterunixname wrote: post #64

TimedToasts wrote: post #41

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I spent a decade as a public library board member. I saw every possible combination of anti-social behavior from the homeless that would encamp there. Many times I had to 'assist' asking someone to leave. The librarians _could_ have called the cops and had the violators permanently barred from re-entering but they would rarely do that. It is 100% scaring away families and elderly.

It's easy to paint with a broad brush "'the homeless' = bad". That is as casually discriminatory as being antisemitic and is offensive. Perhaps some empathy and nuance would help rather than condemning a group of people for the actions of individuals.

Post by [deleted] » Sun, Nov 19, 2023, 4:09 AM UTC

DANmode wrote: post #72

TimedToasts wrote: post #71

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> For others, if you wear the wrong ratty clothes into the library, you're breaking the social contract. This is a very bad faith re-statement of what I wrote about my experiences with the homeless in my library.

My comment was not referring, nor directed, to you.