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Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Post by red_trumpet »

iudqnolq wrote: post #60
crazygringo wrote: post #18

> Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP's per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user. > If you wish to offer subtitles without prompting for an opensubtitles account, please contact us and tell us about your project... For an ea…

Looks like they offer a full data dump: https://dl.opensubtitles.org/addons/export/ I haven't actually tried to use it. So long as they offer a dump you could use I think it's entirely reasonable to require payment for the API. I think it's reasonable to consider them morally open even if the web UI is closed source if the subtitles are open. It feels to me like a project selling a shiny hosted app around an open sou…

That's not a full dump of subtitles, but rather of list of which subtitles they have, with download links. Here are the first lines of the `subtitles_all.txt` file:

    IDSubtitle MovieName MovieYear LanguageName ISO639 SubAddDate ImdbID SubFormat SubSumCD MovieReleaseName MovieFPS SeriesSeason SeriesEpisode SeriesIMDBParent MovieKind URL
    1 Alien3 1992 English en 2004-10-31 23:54:23 103644 sub 2  Alien.3 11.000 0 0 0 movie http://www.opensubtitles.org/subtitles/1/alien3-en
    2 Identity 2003 Slovenian sl 2004-10-31 23:54:23 309698 sub 1  Identity.DVDRiP.XViD 0.000 0 0 0 movie http://www.opensubtitles.org/subtitles/2/identity-sl
    3 Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence 2004 English en 2004-10-31 23:54:23 347246 srt 1  Innocence.2004.DVDRip.XviD 23.980 0 0 0 movie http://www.opensubtitles.org/subtitles/3/ghost-in-the-shell-2-innocence-en

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

#75

Post by mplewis »

miki123211 wrote: post #65
toomuchtodo wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like Reddit. The contributors will just leave and you'll be left with a corpse of content to rip going forward. Tofu is different because of the broad contributor base around the Terraform ecosystem. Lots of people's jobs (or companies even, Spacelift for example) depend on Tofu not only existing, but improving into the future. If you have a benevolent dictator with deep pockets, throttling usage and retrieval i…

Did anybody (outside of the tech/HN open-source-die-hard bubble) actually leave Reddit? From what I saw, there were protests which most Redit users barely noticed (the front-page just served content from the subreddits that didn't go private), and then there was nothing. The long-term impact seems to be small to nonexistent. Maybe if the users organized better and started posting "brand unsafe" content everywhere ins…

Yes. The long-term impact of the quality of posts in interest subreddits is immediately noticeable and staggering. This is not even to speak of the moderators who are no longer participating.

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Post by crazygringo »

donatj wrote: post #31

Am I wrong that a script is copyrighted and thus charging for it, something they have no right to distribute, opens them to all sorts of potential legal action? It’s a lot easier to look the other way when it’s free. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/04/fan-made-subtitl... (2017)

It's definitely a tricky fair use case, and obviously will depend on each country.

IANAL but I'd say the main argument for it being free use is that subtitles don't take away from movie/TV sales. There's no harm. To the contrary -- fan-made subtitles in languages the studio didn't produce might generate purchases where there were none before.

While the main argument against it is that it's part of and enables broader piracy -- if you can show that people are overwhelmingly using subtitles with content they downloaded illegally, then it is part of harming the studios.

(Also, subtitles are not scripts. They usually don't even indicate who's speaking, much less include all of the scene descriptions and instructions. Probably ~half the words in a script are not dialog.)

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Post by oriettaxx »

hiatus wrote: post #20

Honestly, with things like whisper out in the world it's not as much of a loss. The integration with media players was nice, though.

so, with whisper you can generate "live" subtitles from audio? so you can just play a movie in VLC and have your own generated subtitles? that would be cool

only from English?

and what about a translation from English to another language?

Re: Saying Goodbye to OpenSubtitles.org API

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Post by MrStonedOne »

toomuchtodo wrote: post #26
crazygringo wrote: post #18

> Your consumer can query the API on its own, and download 5 subtitles per IP's per 24 hours, but a user must be authenticated to download more. Users will then be able to download as many subtitles as their ranks allows, from 10 as simple signed up user, to 1000 for VIP user. > If you wish to offer subtitles without prompting for an opensubtitles account, please contact us and tell us about your project... For an ea…

Like some open source projects moving to a "source available" or "fair code" licenses, it is going to be bumpy finding equilibrium as to what is reasonable. Tragedy of the commons for sure. There are costs to cover, and usage profiles can vary wildly.

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