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Despite the lobbying from American organisations (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Palantir and others who worked with Thorn on this [1][2]) the EU Parliament did the right thing this time. [1] https://www.thorn.org/partnerships/ [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20130420162917/http://www.wearet...
Well maybe a tiny bit of doubt.
I'd love to know who was in favour of the new better proposal and who was in favour of the old proposal. A clear insight into their values. It's EU parliamentary elections next year, I'd nearly argue those supporting this new better proposal would be a good voting choice next year and to steer clear of those in favour of the old proposal.
I was upset at the parliament for even considering this and extremely relieved that they chose not to pursue this draconic instrument. That said, we as citizens will have to remain vigilant and let our voices be heard because the onslaught on our privacy is constant from both commercial interests, spy agencies and state actors. These parties have no issue keeping pressure up over decades whereas we the citizens can b…
The EU parliament did its job pretty much 100% correctly in my opinion. Their job is to consider the laws the EU commission suggests and thats what they did. They correctly determined it was a shitty law and voted it down. In my opinion you should be upset at the EU commission, and especially commissioner Ylva Johansson from Sweden who seems to be the one pushing this stupid stuff.
I was upset at the parliament for even considering this and extremely relieved that they chose not to pursue this draconic instrument. That said, we as citizens will have to remain vigilant and let our voices be heard because the onslaught on our privacy is constant from both commercial interests, spy agencies and state actors. These parties have no issue keeping pressure up over decades whereas we the citizens can b…
I think those are already in place - one major point against the previously suggested approach was that it would conflict with a bunch of existing regulation, and so it would never get past the courts even if it was passed.
Two convenient examples:
- Article 8 of the EU convention of human rights guarantees a right to privacy, specifically that "Everyone has the right to respect for his private and family life, his home and his correspondence": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Article_8_of_the_European_Conv.... Clearly conflicts with "let's scan everybody's correspondence".
- The E-Commerce Directive defined the rules for online business in the EU back in 2000, and specifically prohibits states from ever imposing general monitoring obligations: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_Commerce_Directive_....
For all its problems, in areas like this the EU is actually pretty well set up.
Despite the lobbying from American organisations (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Palantir and others who worked with Thorn on this [1][2]) the EU Parliament did the right thing this time. [1] https://www.thorn.org/partnerships/ [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20130420162917/http://www.wearet...
Contrary to popular opinion, lobbying isn't as simple as "pay for expensive restaurant, get votes". If legislators feel strongly ideologically about an issue, no amount of lobbying will make them vote the other way.
I don't think there's a topic where lobbying doesn't work to at least some degree. Or do you have an example?
Despite the lobbying from American organisations (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Palantir and others who worked with Thorn on this [1][2]) the EU Parliament did the right thing this time. [1] https://www.thorn.org/partnerships/ [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20130420162917/http://www.wearet...
I'm sure it'll get reintroduced in a year or so, and if it doesn't get enough media attention, it'll pass.
They only have to win once, we have to win every goddamn time.
I was upset at the parliament for even considering this and extremely relieved that they chose not to pursue this draconic instrument. That said, we as citizens will have to remain vigilant and let our voices be heard because the onslaught on our privacy is constant from both commercial interests, spy agencies and state actors. These parties have no issue keeping pressure up over decades whereas we the citizens can b…
The European Parliament has no saying in what laws it votes. The European Commission draft those, and the Parliament can at best rectify or reject them.
So it doesn't have de-jure legislative powers, but de-facto it does.
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They don't feel strongly ideologically about an issue
You might be right, but having politicians who are not ideologically pro-affordable healthcare is a really sad state of affairs
Despite the lobbying from American organisations (Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Amazon, Palantir and others who worked with Thorn on this [1][2]) the EU Parliament did the right thing this time. [1] https://www.thorn.org/partnerships/ [2] https://web.archive.org/web/20130420162917/http://www.wearet...
The thing that I find shocking about lobbying is just how cheap it is. In the FTX trial the amount they spent lobbying politicians for pro-crypto laws was released and we're talking low five figures. SBF even said lobbying was very cheap for the impact you can get. Naively I thought it would cost millions to get a politician to support you but actually it's cheap enough a FAANG engineer could individually pay enough…
This is... a little misleading. They also have at least two PACs (here's the big one: https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs...)
Now, you could claim, though not particularly credibly, that money spent on PACs is not lobbying money.