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There's a significant difference between a Chinese-made Apple OEM part and an aftermarket low-cost Chinese part.
Which is why it makes no sense to say "Chinese" to mean low quality
PKI specifically is an all-or-nothing scenario. This is all why Intel does the same with the ACM in all their CPUs. And AMD with their AGESA (which went closed a short while ago).
There is only a single scenario I can think of where there might be a 'have it both ways' situation, but it's just worse than we have now: you have to identify yourself as the owner, the company has to keep track of that, and you can only sign public keys for your own components. This, however, creates two problems:
1. A company keeping track of every user (no need to come up with a clever comment about "they are already nothing that")
2. Users can be coerced (has already been done with thefts and activation locks) and this weakens the ecosystem as a whole
At this point it doesn't even matter how intentional or not digitally signing components is, it is an effective security model and it works better than anything else.
Everyone loves complaining about everything they don't like, especially on the internet, but so far the amount of realistic and effective solutions are NONE.
Anecdotal, but back in those "good old days" when you could get a screen replaced in 5 mins like this article said, on the three occasions I did this I ended up with the worst cheap Chinese knock off screens I have ever seen, the last time I ended up spending even more to get a genuine one. Hard to avoid this with small businesses when they need to make the enough of a margin at those cheaper retail prices. I'm sure…
I've seen this happen so many times around these discussions on HN:
There is a valid argument in the source. There is discussion around the argument. There is some proof, there are political discussions. Etc. everything totally normal. But then there is this ONE comment. Usually just one:
Anecdotal evidence to spread FUD. And it's up above all that usually discussion.
Where is this coming from? Is this natural behavior of people who are also afraid of the freedom to be able to buy parts elsewhere? Is this advertising?
Give it a few years...
Do you want to control your device or are you okay with someone else controlling it? https://youtu.be/Ag1AKIl_2GM?t=57
My iPhone works really well and I generally trust Apple. So I’m 100% fine with someone else controlling it.
Why? I can't imagine any kind of real trust relationship except with individual developers or small shops who can be responsive to individual customers. I certainly trust Apple more than Microsoft, but I can't imagine any situation in which I'd say I trusted them (or any other megacorp) in an unqualified sense.
At yet here we are with nobody having a better plan. The issue is still the same as it has been for the past 20 years: making a (PKI-based) security feature means you can never share the secret parts or make it optional, otherwise it is immediately defeated. You can't have selective security where it works sometimes but not all the times. And trading out that security system is not an option. PKI specifically is an a…
This is BS. A security system where the user is not in control of the secret is not a security system but DRM almost by definition. And trading it out is not only an option, but likely the preferred outcome if you ask the majority of buyers.
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> Pickpocketing is quick and easy, sometimes not even a crime I find that difficult to believe.
In many places, it's a crime according to the law, but if nothing happens with thieves or reported theft, then in terms of consequences it's not a crime.
Anecdotal, but back in those "good old days" when you could get a screen replaced in 5 mins like this article said, on the three occasions I did this I ended up with the worst cheap Chinese knock off screens I have ever seen, the last time I ended up spending even more to get a genuine one. Hard to avoid this with small businesses when they need to make the enough of a margin at those cheaper retail prices. I'm sure…
Most of an iPhone is Chinese made
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My iPhone works really well and I generally trust Apple. So I’m 100% fine with someone else controlling it.
> I generally trust Apple. Why? I can't imagine any kind of real trust relationship except with individual developers or small shops who can be responsive to individual customers. I certainly trust Apple more than Microsoft, but I can't imagine any situation in which I'd say I trusted them (or any other megacorp) in an unqualified sense.
Anecdotal, but back in those "good old days" when you could get a screen replaced in 5 mins like this article said, on the three occasions I did this I ended up with the worst cheap Chinese knock off screens I have ever seen, the last time I ended up spending even more to get a genuine one. Hard to avoid this with small businesses when they need to make the enough of a margin at those cheaper retail prices. I'm sure…
A few months ago, I had to get a screen replacement and straight upfront asked the repair guy how much it would really (emphasized) cost me to get the screen replaced after he gave me a quote indicating that either the screen would cost nothing, or the work hours cost almost nothing.
He smiled and admitted getting the original replacement unit would almost double the quote he had just given me, plus I'd have to wait a week until the unit arrives. I told him that's what I wanted.
Eventually, the repair cost me a bit more than double what he asked first. But I am satisfied, I noticed no defaults at all on my phone since the repair, it feels exactly like the original model. He cleaned it, and installed a screen protector on it (offered).
This is clearly a case of "theory built on one single personal experience", I agree. But honestly, I don't know anyone around me who would agree to pay a bit more just to get better service and I think that's the core issue.