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Re: Starship’s second flight test

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Can you give an example of 1 thing Elon said that hasn't become a reality and cannot become a reality in the next 10 years? 1 engineering or physics related thing. Deadlines don't count. I'm waiting...

Coast to coast self-driving by late 2017.

Did you read the question?

Re: Starship’s second flight test

#72

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Elon also said that he will have 1 million Robotaxi by 2020

No, he never said that. He said his best guess would be 2020 after being put on the spot to come up with a date a few years in the future. Elon bad, Elon bad at planning so Elon liar. /s

No, he didn't say it was his "best guess." He said, and I quote, “I feel very confident predicting autonomous robotaxis for Tesla next year. From our standpoint, if you fast-forward a year … maybe a year and three months, but next year for sure, we will have over a million robotaxis on the road.”

"Next year for sure" is not a "best guess."

Re: Starship’s second flight test

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Can you give an example of 1 thing Elon said that hasn't become a reality and cannot become a reality in the next 10 years? 1 engineering or physics related thing. Deadlines don't count. I'm waiting...

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1240754657263144960

> 1 engineering or physics related thing

Re: Starship’s second flight test

#74
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> Elon said in 2020… To be fair, Elon has said _a lot_ of things about his various projects and not all of them are based in reality.

Everyone knows that, but Falcon 9 is extremely successful and Starship is the main project that's been in the making doing good strides once in a while, and the whole "chopstick" lift tower has already been built, with the clear idea of ultimately landing Starships right in to it. And Starship seems to really be the main focus of Elon where he doesn't just lead but is in the weeds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WY73…

> And Starship seems to really be the main focus of Elon where he doesn't just lead but is in the weeds

There lies the danger, considering his work leading Twitter.

Re: Starship’s second flight test

#75

I finished reading the Elon Musk biography by Walter Isaacson, and, for all his faults, Musk really knows how to get shit done. I was constantly amazed by his ability to strip a process to its essentials before embarking on its construction. SpaceX single-handedly* brought down the cost of space flight by using off-the-shelf and custom-created-from-metal components, where they only had to pay for the raw cost rather…

Elon Musk's biggest problem is his chronic inability to shut the hell up.

No one would care who he was as a person if he just let his media people do their jobs, and stuck to corporate press releases to respond to things.

Plenty of people say they dislike Jeff Bezos, but barely anyone even thinks about Jeff Bezos or knows what he sounds like.

Re: Starship’s second flight test

#76

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Can you give an example of 1 thing Elon said that hasn't become a reality and cannot become a reality in the next 10 years? 1 engineering or physics related thing. Deadlines don't count. I'm waiting...

Everything Hyperloop related is not happening.

Has Elon actually promised something concrete about this? Elon's not the first guy ever to hype the hyperloop idea.

On its basis it is hard to think we won't this at some point as it promises essentially orbit-like capability on the surface, so everyone has the right to dream we'd get this sooner.

Re: Starship’s second flight test

#77
post #72

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No, he never said that. He said his best guess would be 2020 after being put on the spot to come up with a date a few years in the future. Elon bad, Elon bad at planning so Elon liar. /s

No, he didn't say it was his "best guess." He said, and I quote, “I feel very confident predicting autonomous robotaxis for Tesla next year. From our standpoint, if you fast-forward a year … maybe a year and three months, but next year for sure, we will have over a million robotaxis on the road.” "Next year for sure" is not a "best guess."

Checking the transcript, it is not unreasonable to say that

"Next year we'll have 1mil robotaxis on the road, the fleet wakes up by OTA update"

means "Robotaxi-capable in hardware" which is the main sell, IE that you buy car now, when the software is ready, and Tesla is closer than anyone else in having anything like that ready, your car will take the role of Robotaxi.

Maybe a bit ambigious wording like when what Sean Murray implied when the reality was a shared universe in place names, not realtime multiplayer at that stage

Re: Starship’s second flight test

#78

If Starship meets its reusability goals it's going to be absolutely nuts. Flying to orbit and back multiple times in a day like an airliner or something, carrying more than the entire habitable volume of ISS every time. It's impossible to overstate how much that would change access to space, and how much of an advantage it would give SpaceX over its competitors (even other nations).

It’s bonkers. It’s absolutely bonkers. I feel like I’m witnessing the creation of the wheel. Non-space nerds don’t quite understand why it’s so exciting. But I can’t imagine how much this is going to change the world, and civilization. It’s kind of the equivalent of going from local freighters to the Seawise Giant in one iteration.

Any hints on how this is going to change civilisation, for non-space nerds?

Re: Starship’s second flight test

#79
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But more important first is to put headphones on seals and play sonic boom sounds to test and make sure they aren't startled by the scary rocket sounds. (Ok, stretching a little. That is what a seemingly similar survey did at Cape as a part of some similarly goofy bureaucracy thing that has been holding Starship back the last month or so. For Starship they're worried for the risk of what happens if Starship literally…

The Twitter mobile player displays no timestamp so seeking is pointless. Here it is on YouTube. https://youtube.com/watch?t=1h18m . And here’s the transcript: https://lexfridman.com/elon-musk-4-transcript#chapter12_ai_r... . I listened to the relevant section and there’s no indication that the shark question is what is blocking launch. In fact it is clear that question was already answered. > One of the things that w…

If you research this a bit more it becomes clear that the survey has been the blocker, after the direct FAA checklist was cleared. Just google around, this has been bouncing around as an annoyance for a while in the space enthusiast circles so it's assumed knowledge in the context

Re: Starship’s second flight test

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post #75

I finished reading the Elon Musk biography by Walter Isaacson, and, for all his faults, Musk really knows how to get shit done. I was constantly amazed by his ability to strip a process to its essentials before embarking on its construction. SpaceX single-handedly* brought down the cost of space flight by using off-the-shelf and custom-created-from-metal components, where they only had to pay for the raw cost rather…

Elon Musk's biggest problem is his chronic inability to shut the hell up. No one would care who he was as a person if he just let his media people do their jobs, and stuck to corporate press releases to respond to things. Plenty of people say they dislike Jeff Bezos, but barely anyone even thinks about Jeff Bezos or knows what he sounds like.

I mean, what's the point of getting where he is and shutting up just to make random people happy?
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