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Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

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Curious what you define as "minimal background checks" and "assault rifles" as

They already said they're European. The terms you mentioned are very Americanized/America-centric phrases. The rest of the world doesn't really have the same concern or context, because the rest of the world doesn't have the same issues or political/media environment.

I was quoting their terms

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

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As a European who has been living in the US for a decade, yeah, you're pretty spot on. Americans are a scared people, probably the most scared I've ever seen. Afraid of the gov't, the neighbors, and random people they don't even know. I've gotten a ton of hate as a foreigner and I am not surprised a hateful, greedy and selfish population like here is afraid somebody will take them out with an improvised device.

And yet, you live here. Annals of revealed preferences.

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I've been dying to leave, nothing I would like more. But I am sure you've heard of the term economic slavery, and that's what I have become. Don't make enough to make the ends meet, and don't make enough to leave. Have to pay the debts before I can give up the passport.

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

#73

Seeing drone dropped grenades everywhere in Ukraine has made me worried about normalized "drone drop murders" spreading to the rest of the world. With widely available addresses gang violence, political killings, and even online flamewar escalations will become much much uglier. Who needs to do a driveby shooting if you could drop a homemade bomb from a McDonalds bathroom 20 miles away using some jailbroken drone? Vi…

Most of the footage from Ukraine is from flat empty landscape targeting stationary targets. Trying to do the same on an urban environment with moving targets is way more complicated.

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

#74

Seeing drone dropped grenades everywhere in Ukraine has made me worried about normalized "drone drop murders" spreading to the rest of the world. With widely available addresses gang violence, political killings, and even online flamewar escalations will become much much uglier. Who needs to do a driveby shooting if you could drop a homemade bomb from a McDonalds bathroom 20 miles away using some jailbroken drone? Vi…

Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

As an European living in Europe I worry about addresses being available because someone suitably unhinged and upset can come to my house and stab me, set it on fire, etc.

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

#75

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Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

Curious what you define as "minimal background checks" and "assault rifles" as

Not American, and curious about the checks required for different weapons. I get lot of contradictory information online.

Also read in many places buying illegally is easy. How true is that?

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

#76
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Seeing drone dropped grenades everywhere in Ukraine has made me worried about normalized "drone drop murders" spreading to the rest of the world. With widely available addresses gang violence, political killings, and even online flamewar escalations will become much much uglier. Who needs to do a driveby shooting if you could drop a homemade bomb from a McDonalds bathroom 20 miles away using some jailbroken drone? Vi…

Seems like being able to look up people's home address is a pretty minor part of that threat?

Being able to look up someone's address normally isn't a problem. Extremists and nut jobs being able to compile a list of people whose religion, political views, sexual preferences, medical conditions, and purchase habits makes them a target for violence is the problem. At that point being able to find them (using their street address or even real time geolocation data) becomes a pretty big part of that threat.

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

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Sometimes the US perspective of things is completely surreal for me as a European. In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb.

> In a country where you can buy assault rifles with minimal background checks, people worry about addresses being available because someone might be able to look up the address to kill them with a drone and a home made bomb. Drones and IUDs may be less traceable than guns and offer even less risk to the user. Currently if you're going to use a gun, you basically have to be suicidal or care zero about the consequence…

Doxing remains dangerous in Europe, the posters just trying to score cheap points.

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

#78

On Linkedin there's all kinds of "Top Secret/Security Clearance" groups which lists all the members in that group. Some have 5 thousand people. Sure, some of those users don't actually have clearance at all, but many actually do, and work at firms all doing contracting for the federal government. Call me crazy, but giving out a list of people with clearance to the highest levels of secrets, usually doing tech work, i…

It’s pretty normal for job seeking since there are jobs that require a clearance before any other consideration. There’s a whole job site dedicated to clearances. https://www.clearancejobs.com

Normal and allowed, yes, but I share the sentiment that it makes me a little uneasy. I don't mention my clearance on my LinkedIn page, and I'm vague about many other things. Of course, anybody who understands this stuff (like any foreign intelligence agency) could probably infer who's cleared Secret vs. TS/SCI vs. NSA polygraph, etc. based on other information like job skills, locations, and military rank / time-in-service.

I'm also not job seeking, just using it as a rolodex in case I ever need it later. Maybe I'll need to lay out the details if I ever do use it for job seeking.

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

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post #72

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And yet, you live here. Annals of revealed preferences.

Oh no, don't get me wrong, I've been dying to leave, nothing I would like more. But I am sure you've heard of the term economic slavery, and that's what I have become. Don't make enough to make the ends meet, and don't make enough to leave. Have to pay the debts before I can give up the passport.

I'm sure we could pull some money together to get you out of economic slavery. Don't want that on our conscience

Re: U.S. military members' personal data being sold by online brokers

#80

I heard this on NPR and I appreciate the avenue by which the red flag is being raised, but it bothers the shit out of me, because EVERYONE'S personal data is being sold by online brokers. The implication that their data is more important or something just seems like a ploy to get more eyeballs on the research.

Service members are uniquely vulnerable. They are employed by the government which makes them a target of hostile foreign powers, and they're often ordered to give away their personal information while in service often out of habit and not out any genuine need to have the service members SSN.

Unfortunately, thanks to surveillance capitalism, everyone is "uniquely vulnerable". You can never know which of the billions of data points that make up your dossier could make someone target you. Your political views, your religion, your employer, your sexual preferences, your genetics, any of it, however inaccurate or outdated, can make you a target to someone and all that data never goes away.

Hostile foreign powers are a problem, but so are hostile domestic extremists along with a large population of the mentally ill who over the last century have gone from being abused to being ignored, which means that while most of the mentally ill are harmless, nobody is keeping an eye on the ones who aren't. Not even after they get repeatedly reported to authorities by concerned family members (Robert Card, Ethan Crumbley, Orlando Harris, etc).

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