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California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

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Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unless you're going to pay for an extra room--which seems very unlikely (or should be) to be reimbursable as opposed to working on the kitchen table--the actual incremental costs seem pretty trivial. Even if you reimburse some pro-rated amount of internet and/or mobile, that's maybe $100/month in the US. ADDED: If you don't have an option to go into an office, a stipend for a co-working space may be reasonable.

Working from the kitchen table doesn’t work if you have a family or really anyone else in the house.

A desk in the bedroom works well enough. You don't "need" an extra room, I've never had an extra room and I've been working from home in all my jobs

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#73
So the article says these costs are reimbursable if you are required to work from home, but not if you are voluntarily doing it. So many of us that are required to be in the office sometime during the week but may work remote other times, how would this affect them?

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#74

I work 100% remote, have for over a decade, if my employer/contractor won't cover my expenses it tells me exactly what type of employer/company it is. If you can't recognize the value in me working fm home you won't see the value in me as an employee. Hard pass.

Shouldn't it be covered by your salary ?

Otherwise why don't companies pay for my gas/tire/shoe soles/&c ?

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#75

I like the idea, but not the implementation. I think it should be done as a tax credit for the employee or the company instead. Doing so creates positive incentives for companies to hire remote workers in California. Requiring the company to pay up by force of law disincentivizes companies from hiring remote workers in California. I also think that it would be more equitable since an employee’s home office setup belo…

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Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

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My biggest expense being remote is that I need an extra room for my office. Besides that, that would probably be heating in winter and electricity, but these are small compared to the cost of an extra room.

Unless you have special equipment that requires the space you don't need an extra room, you want an extra room.

You mean like a desk, a chair, two monitors, a camera, microphone, and video light? That type of special equipment?

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

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I like the idea, but not the implementation. I think it should be done as a tax credit for the employee or the company instead. Doing so creates positive incentives for companies to hire remote workers in California. Requiring the company to pay up by force of law disincentivizes companies from hiring remote workers in California. I also think that it would be more equitable since an employee’s home office setup belo…

> Requiring the company to pay up by force of law disincentivizes companies from hiring remote workers in California. This was my thought as well. By increasing the burden, companies will just stop remote positions, something they are inclined to do already.

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Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There’s these things called home offices and many have converted a room to be one when working from home all the time.

How do you value the opportunity cost of an extra bedroom?

Compare the rents of neighboring n- and n+1-bedroom apartments?

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

#79
Can I make my periodic reminder to US-Americans that two-letter state abbreviations are not universally recognized, and please to use full state names where possible.

The case of California / CA is especially bad, since this is the ISO-code for Canada, so the article title is unnecessarily ambiguous.

Re: California employers must reimburse remote workers for all necessary expenses

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Some quick napkin math: Say you work 100% remote, 8 hours a day. That's 2080 work hours a year, out of 8760 hours. That means you need to be connected to internet, have electricity, etc. 23.74% of the time - let's round that up to 24% Say a worker pays $600 / year for internet, $2400 for electricity / year, and - dunno - $1500 for your cellphone / year. So that's $4500 / year, and your employer must cover approximate…

I've said over and over again that I would easily take a 50% salary cut to stay remote if it were the only option. I don't want to "get one over" on anyone, work multiple jobs, or slack off. I just want a square deal that does not dictate my physical location in life.
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