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Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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step 1: enable ublock origin in incognito mode in options step 2: right click video, open in incognito

For me, it also works to stop using Chrome and use Firefox instead (so far.)

I've had no issues with either Chrome or Firefox in Incognito with uBlock Origin. But I do kinda wonder if the fact I have YouTube Premium on one of my accounts in Chrome means Google isn't trying too hard to block my IP/detect adblockers on it.

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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I feel like I'm in the minority that has zero problem paying for an ad-free experience. I get tremendous value out of YouTube in both professional and personal ways. I have a daughter who watches it often. Suppressing ads while supporting the service my family enjoys regularly seems like a no-brainer to me. And I never have to worry about them circumventing my ad blocker.

> I feel like I'm in the minority that has zero problem paying for an ad-free experience.

this is fine until enough people pay

at which point they add ads for paying customers too

see: cable TV, netflix, disney plus, hulu, ...

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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I have such mixed feelings about this. I can't stand to waste the time on ads so I started using an alternative client that doesn't have any ads. However, I do recognize that I've been using youtube for 15+ years without paying a cent or watching any ads - which is pretty unreasonable. No streaming service or television channel has ever been free with no ads. I can't really justify it. And yet, I'm not willing to pay…

I'm even willing to pay but with sponsor messages being baked in even paying for Premium means having to take extra steps to avoid ads. I'm also not sure if I pay for Premium if YT will still shut me down for running uBlock origin? I guess I could allowlist it at that point...

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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You can always choose not to use Youtube if you hate Ads so much.

Well, if that's their rules, it's a choice. If you pick up a free newspaper on a commmute, or, say, a community "What's on" sponsored by ads, does someone look over your shoulder and insist you read every ad before they let you turn the page?

No: but the ads ARE THERE. They're actually in front of you. Not so with an ad blocker.

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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You can always choose not to use Youtube if you hate Ads so much.

Such a silly comment when you know full well that YouTube has a monopoly on user supplied video content.

It is not like you can’t get rid of ads, you can just pay subscription fee.

It is a monopoly doesn’t mean it is a public utility. PG&G has a monopoly in electricity in my region, does it mean I can steal the electricity because I don’t like PG&E and I don’t have other options?

All tv channels have either ads or you need to pay, how is this different than what YouTube is trying to do?

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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I saw the popup in FF, but interestingly YouTube doesn't seem to recognize Cromite's adblocker

From their perspective, they don't care if they are blocking all the adblockers, blocking the major ones on the major platforms is still a big win.

But I thought Cromite just used ABP filters? Maybe some other patch is interacting with it, as the other day I noticed YouTube ads trying to load, and just failing with a long pause before playing the actual video.

I find this interesting because there will undoubtedly be a cat-and-mouse game between YT and adblockers now.

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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I feel like I'm in the minority that has zero problem paying for an ad-free experience. I get tremendous value out of YouTube in both professional and personal ways. I have a daughter who watches it often. Suppressing ads while supporting the service my family enjoys regularly seems like a no-brainer to me. And I never have to worry about them circumventing my ad blocker.

I paid for Premium for years. But then I started asking myself if wanted to give money to a company that pushed things like FLoC, Manifest v3, and WEI.

And the answer was no. We used to pay them $284/year for our household services.

Now we pay them nothing. Maybe they'll have a change of heart someday, but until then, not a dime.

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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"Hey, AI, connect to YT using my browser and account with adblockers turned off, then check the usual channels grabbing new videos, then strip out all advertising content and make them available to me and my friends over this p2p encrypted connection."

Isn't it a little optimistic though to think that the AI itself will be free from advertising/grubby-monetization in the scheme of things? Sure, it feels great now, and maybe even you can pay for the GPU and run it on your own, but not everyone will, and either way the future is long! It just feels inevitable that somebody or something will come to collect one day, in one form or the other.

I'm hoping AI-horde type structures proliferate, where a few people with idle accelerators can support a much larger population without much effort.

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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Would they be able to enforce this on Firefox or other browsers?

And not just browsers. I'm sure other clients exist. I'd be surprised if VLC doesn't already have an extension that allows you to play YouTube. They'll have to interpolate the ads into the stream. Then people will code clients that detects the ads and black them and mute them. Then YouTube will learn how that works and will change their ads not to trigger detection. Etc. This is called an arms race.

> If VLC doesn't already have an extension that allows you to play YouTube.

There are apps for this, and dozens of similar ones for all sorts of video players. I personally use SVP's because I already own it.

I think they mostly use youtube-dl under the hood to fetch the video URL, so that is a significant point of failure.

Re: YouTube Begins Blocking Users Who Use Adblock

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree with all of that, and I sincerely was planning to become a paid subscriber. But I have some irrational resentment around being a statistic validating their increased pressure campaign. I don’t like feeling forced to spend the money! Which is weird because I get significantly more value from it than any streaming service.

Why does your mindset go to being "bullied", though? Aren't you the bully for circumventing their revenue model with the expectation that you should get it for free?

I did not say bullied. I would never have said bullied. I think my original post serves as a sufficient answer and I don’t feel the need to say anything more to disprove your framing.
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