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Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by minhmeoke »

jillesvangurp wrote: post #29
jimmcslim wrote: post #7

I would suggest that if your architecture diagrams are a bunch of icons provided by AWS/Azure/GCP with lines pointing at each other... you are doing it wrong. The 'what does this element do for my system' is vastly more important than the 'which in vogue offering from my cloud provider implements it'. I highly suggest folks take a look at the C4 Model: https://c4model.com/

Depends on the target audience. Mostly the audience is hand wavy types that just want to point at a beautiful thing in a slide to point out "we have stuff with icons that you might know! Look at how beautiful this is. It almost looks like we know what we are doing!". Exaggerating here but anything that fits on a single slide is completely useless to an expert. Not worth drawing unless the goal is to impress non exper…

I would have to disagree. If you have a larger system, then onboarding, design discussions, and communicating changes will be more efficient if you have a consistent language and up-to-date conceptual understanding of the system compared to having to perform code archaeology and reverse-engineer the previous maintainer's intent each time you want to change something.

https://www.unravelled.dev/how-architecture-diagrams-enable-...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37222855

Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by lwhi »

lionkor wrote: post #58
ahoka wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What a useless crap. It’s an over engineered documentation framework focusing on all the wrong things so some agile consultant can sell more cool aid. I don’t trust anything that is designed someone who last did real projects in the 2000’s OOP Java enterprise craze.

So so much agree with this. People who think in terms of OOP and design patterns (i.e. bandaids) will think "how else are you supposed to model solutions"? But yes, this is fundamentally an OOP thing, and especially the component layer is very much just fantasy. In no real OOP software do these meat reusable components not have super strong binding to each other. Yeah you may have the SignIn controller and the ResetP…

Architecture covers the macro, not the micro.

Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by apatap »

jahlove wrote: post #65
petepete wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I use Excalidraw because I like the hand-drawn look when planning/sketching things out. If/when I make the jump to actual documentation I use Mermaid so I can keep everything tidy under source control.

draw.io (now called diagrams.net) has a sketch style that mimics xkcd / Excalidraw. You can try it here: https://app.diagrams.net/

There is even a desktop app available (but the webapp works offline too):

https://www.drawio.com/blog/diagrams-offline

Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by jillesvangurp »

minhmeoke wrote: post #71
jillesvangurp wrote: post #29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on the target audience. Mostly the audience is hand wavy types that just want to point at a beautiful thing in a slide to point out "we have stuff with icons that you might know! Look at how beautiful this is. It almost looks like we know what we are doing!". Exaggerating here but anything that fits on a single slide is completely useless to an expert. Not worth drawing unless the goal is to impress non exper…

I would have to disagree. If you have a larger system, then onboarding, design discussions, and communicating changes will be more efficient if you have a consistent language and up-to-date conceptual understanding of the system compared to having to perform code archaeology and reverse-engineer the previous maintainer's intent each time you want to change something. https://www.unravelled.dev/how-architecture-diagra…

That's what I would call aspirational usage. Ask yourself is your best use as a 200$ and hour senior architect to be writing onboarding documentation?

I've been in plenty of companies with diagrams and universally they were incomplete, not that informative or helpful, typically outdated, and kind of obvious. That's because they are typically rush jobs exactly because the best people that could be doing these diagrams have way more important/urgent/valuable things to do.

Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by antifa »

ygra wrote: post #18

As someone working indirectly on one of those “crap online editors”, I do wonder what benefits Inkscape has over other options for what is essentially a graph that may very well need an automatic layout. Someone else mentioned diagrams.net as well.

I needed a dbdiagram tool recently. I found some, but they had had at least one of 2 flaws:

Could not programaticly import/update schema without tons of additional mousing around.

Auto rearrange could not handle large schema.

Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by teddyh »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #67
teddyh wrote: post #14

Why use Inkscape for this, when Dia¹ is a more dedicated diagram editor? 1. https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Dia/Screenshots >

You might be interested in why this person didn’t want to use Dia: https://fasterthanli.me/articles/just-paying-figma-15-dollar... Recently discussed on HN

That person’s entire criticism of Dia is “it’s old”. That’s it; not even “the program, when I run it, looks old”! They merely criticize the web page for having old screenshots and support for old operating systems on it.

Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by lloydatkinson »

teddyh wrote: post #78
lloydatkinson wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You might be interested in why this person didn’t want to use Dia: https://fasterthanli.me/articles/just-paying-figma-15-dollar... Recently discussed on HN

That person’s entire criticism of Dia is “it’s old”. That’s it; not even “the program, when I run it, looks old”! They merely criticize the web page for having old screenshots and support for old operating systems on it.

It’s last update was ten years or more ago, doesn’t support HiDPI screens, shall I go on?

Re: Inkscape Cloud Architect

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Post by teddyh »

lloydatkinson wrote: post #79
teddyh wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That person’s entire criticism of Dia is “it’s old”. That’s it; not even “the program, when I run it, looks old”! They merely criticize the web page for having old screenshots and support for old operating systems on it.

It’s last update was ten years or more ago, doesn’t support HiDPI screens, shall I go on?

Feel free; the link you provided certainly did not have anything concrete.
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