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First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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The other word visible is "oino", wine. Wine can be described as purple.

While modern people make that connection, that is culturally dependent. The color terms available to speakers of a language, and what objects those terms can be associated with, change over time. In the case of the Greek word for "purple", it was connected to a dye and therefore used for clothing, but one shouldn't expect it to be used for wine.

Says you.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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How does this theory reconcile the existence and growth of Scientology or Mormonism? Or hell, the recent rise of QAnon?

As far as QAnon goes, this would be like discovering an unsecured laptop that actually belonged to the original Q and had something like IRC channel logs that they used when generating "what won't they believe" type ideas. As for Scientology and Mormonism, they don't have explicitly historical and rational claims to truth like the Catholic Church and some sects of Judaism do. Ask a fervent Catholic or Orthodox Jew wh…

> As far as I know [Mormons] don't make this type of claim to be historically validated by peak reason.

Mormons absolutely believe that their religion is backed up by history: the book of Mormon is about and ostensibly by various descendants of Old Testament figures who migrated to the Americas, culminating in the burial of golden tablets with "Reformed Egyptian" writing in upstate New York. It's obviously fiction - but that doesn't seem to make much difference.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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What I love about the Ea-Nasir story is the tablet was found in a pile of other tablets, suggesting that Ea-Nasir saved them. Why? Who knows, maybe he found them funny.

I heard somewhere it was common practice to reuse tablets. It was easier to scrape the surface clean than to make a new tablet. You'd save any tablets you have, and might wait until you need it to scrape it clean. In Mesopotamia there was a period where it was fashionable to use a more rare softer red clay on top of the white clay. Your stylus would cut through the top layer leaving nice white letters on a red backgr…

> You'd save any tablets you have, and might wait until you need it to scrape it clean.

The 3.5” floppies of yore.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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How does this theory reconcile the existence and growth of Scientology or Mormonism? Or hell, the recent rise of QAnon?

As far as QAnon goes, this would be like discovering an unsecured laptop that actually belonged to the original Q and had something like IRC channel logs that they used when generating "what won't they believe" type ideas. As for Scientology and Mormonism, they don't have explicitly historical and rational claims to truth like the Catholic Church and some sects of Judaism do. Ask a fervent Catholic or Orthodox Jew wh…

I know both fervent Catholics who do not feel the historical accuracy of the Bible is what makes their belief in God accurate, and Mormons who believe in the literal historical accuracy of their religion.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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It is an assumption based on the fact that the codebase uses cuda and the main backer of the project owns the cluster.

> It is an assumption Then don't say "certainly"

Why not? If they had bought the compute themselves, it might cost more than $700k.

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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I wrote this for a different community (filled with semiliterate sophists), but this is absolutely huge and could upend huge swathes of understanding about the last two thousand years. You can avoid the longform essay below if you want. The short of it is there are several potentially common works possibly in the library that could directly prove or disprove what is found in the New Testament and the predicates of Ra…

I don't think academics are as deferent to scripture as you think, so I don't anticipate an epistemological crisis. Exciting development nonetheless

Re: First word discovered in unopened Herculaneum scroll by CS student

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I wrote this for a different community (filled with semiliterate sophists), but this is absolutely huge and could upend huge swathes of understanding about the last two thousand years. You can avoid the longform essay below if you want. The short of it is there are several potentially common works possibly in the library that could directly prove or disprove what is found in the New Testament and the predicates of Ra…

> I wrote this for a different community (filled with semiliterate sophists), but this is absolutely huge and could upend huge swathes of understanding about the last two thousand years.

Surely writing an essay isn't a good way to convince them if they're illiterate? Maybe they can use TTS.

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