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I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by tarek_computer »

kiltedpanda wrote: post #23
jddj wrote: post #17

I overheard a guy at the gym a couple of weeks back saying that he's automated (gpt4) the keyword-optimised CV/cover letter process to the point where he was able to apply to - I'm a bit suspect on this bit, but the generation at least is believable - 75 jobs in an hour and a half. We've raised the noise floor significantly. Ps. If you're here mate I hope it worked out for you.

We hire on Freelancer sites quite a bit and have noticed that about 50%-80% of applicants now very obviously use ChatGPT or equivalent to apply. Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. They are currently very easy to spot and the applications go directly into the trash, so the freelancers aren't doing themselves any favors using them. It is in…

What are the most common freelancing sites you use for job postings?

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by blitzar »

roamerz wrote: post #67
kiltedpanda wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We hire on Freelancer sites quite a bit and have noticed that about 50%-80% of applicants now very obviously use ChatGPT or equivalent to apply. Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. They are currently very easy to spot and the applications go directly into the trash, so the freelancers aren't doing themselves any favors using them. It is in…

> Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. That's crazy to me. Why would someone put ANYTHING on their resume that is not factually correct? That in the end is a disservice to yourself and to your potential employer, not to mention the pressure it puts on job seekers to push the envelope on embellishment. What I am on the fence about in my own…

> That's crazy to me. Why would s ...

Because it works... They get the job and the person who wasnt captain of the football, tennis, rowing, lacrose, bowling, sailing, cheerleading, chess and debate teams all at the same time is just some unemployable loser.

The real question is why managers and recruiters fall for it - the obvious answer is that they got where they got by inflating their CV and simply assume everyone does it too.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by brightball »

mr_o47 wrote: post #45

I remember applying to RenTech and getting a rejection email in 3 hours and let me tell you it was quick. Most companies I have applied to would probably take a week or more than a week

The only time I reject an application that quickly is if it was completely outside the realm of the job.

At least for programmers, I always cast a wide net unless there is some very specific item that has a very steep learning curve.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by lazide »

roamerz wrote: post #67
kiltedpanda wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We hire on Freelancer sites quite a bit and have noticed that about 50%-80% of applicants now very obviously use ChatGPT or equivalent to apply. Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. They are currently very easy to spot and the applications go directly into the trash, so the freelancers aren't doing themselves any favors using them. It is in…

> Now suddenly every person magically has 8 years experience in a weird esoteric requirement that we're looking for. That's crazy to me. Why would someone put ANYTHING on their resume that is not factually correct? That in the end is a disservice to yourself and to your potential employer, not to mention the pressure it puts on job seekers to push the envelope on embellishment. What I am on the fence about in my own…

I bet you’re surprised that people lie all the time to women at bars too!

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by PaulHoule »

hcks wrote: post #6

Probs took less than 17 seconds to be rejected by rentech too lol

Rentech wouldn't be fulfilling their brand promise if they didn't have an SLA to reject 90% of job seekers in less than 17 milliseconds.

There was that time I was at a conference put on by Sun Microsystems in NYC and asked a question about main memory databases which got me jumped on by somebody from rentech. If I knew to the extent which hell was about to break loose at that job I was working at then, I should have applied for a job at rentech.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by squeaky-clean »

Seems like even though multiple industries were tried these are all for tech positions, right? I wonder how long it would take for non-tech positions. I remember applying online for a minimum wage job at Burger King around 2010 and the application took about 45 minutes. Not only did you need to upload your resume, you need to enter every detail again in a long web form, and then there was a "personality test".

Funny sidenote, my manager told me I was the first application he received that got a perfect score on the personality test. The next best applicant in the queue at the time was 85%. The questions were all things like "If a customer is complaining do you: Smile and listen to their complaint? Or Tell them it's fast food and to deal with it?" or "A customer accidentally included an extra 5 dollar bill when giving you their payment. You could keep this $5 without anyone knowing, do you keep it?" Just all very obvious answers and I don't understand why you wouldn't at least lie.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by Peroni »

kraftman wrote: post #66

Is how long it takes to submit your generic CV a valuable statistic? Is there a benefit for companies to make it easy for you to apply to them? I don't think anyone is sitting around going 'We just have no good candidates, if only people could apply in 71 seconds instead of 160, then we'd finally see the applicant quality increase'

>Is how long it takes to submit your generic CV a valuable statistic?

Not at all. If anything, you want people to take their time when applying. In almost every A/B test I've ever run, the more questions I introduce into the application process, the quality of applications increases exponentially, the time to filter applications decreases, and the decrease in the total number of applications was barely noticeable.

Re: I applied to 250 jobs and timed how long each one took

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Post by EarthAmbassador »

Why do HR people demand the duplication of efforts including manual entry of the very same information on a resume or LinkedIn profile, two resources that many HR people request. This is abusive, lazy, and easily solvable issue. I don’t bother applying with any company that feels entitled to ware my time.
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