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Tesla sued for severe harassment of black workers at California plant

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Re: Tesla sued for severe harassment of black workers at California plant

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Post by blueflow »

tomlockwood wrote: post #16
racked wrote: post #13

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Its not a trivial change, git actually doesn't have an default branch, it is actually just the remote HEAD. And its not possible to git push that information. Thats also why all the manuals about changing the "default branch" require setting some select box in the WebUI.

I do maintain a git mirror chain with several pulls/pushes in a row and the whole master/main thing has been a pain in the ass. And both sides in that debate implicitly made that wrong assumption that a "default branch" even exists, which bites me even more.

Re: Tesla sued for severe harassment of black workers at California plant

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Post by Immerse7795 »

olalonde wrote: post #7

Wouldn't it be more effective to pursue criminal charges against the individuals directly responsible? Graffitis, particularly when they involve symbols as disturbing as a noose, are not just offensive, they're criminal acts. They could even be classified as hate crimes or death threats. The perpetrators should be held responsible. Otherwise, they'll simply continue this harmful behavior in their future workplaces, k…

Not a lawyer but in US, First Amendment provides freedom to practice hate speech. The best way to combat hate speech, however vile they are is to let them be said in public and to shame them in public with an order of magnitude of a better alternative speech. Providing government right to pursue criminal charges for speech is a slippery slope.

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Post by gumballindie »

blueflow wrote: post #67
gumballindie wrote: post #58

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Yeah I dont think germany is a good example of mutual respect. Far from it actually. Racism and discrimination are rampant in that country, including in tech. Any german moralising americans on racism should first look at their own 10x issues.

Germany is not the one with the "black person shot by police" protests setting stuff ablaze.

Because it’s not in the german media. Censorship ensures the image is clean but in reality germany is at an extreme that makes the us shine. Perhaps not shootings but other types of discrimination.

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Post by nebula8804 »

Akronymus wrote: post #48
makeitdouble wrote: post #34

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It think it comes in waves. There's a phase of progress and real social changes, laws get passed to correct past issues, the media warms up a lot towards minorities etc. Then comes the reaction, as too much visible change happens, opposing groups organize and try to re-anchor their position, will push as hard a possible to undo some of the progress and carve out areas where they'll be able to protect their values. I…

IMO the newest wave of racism stems from the blowback to racist policies like affirmative action and similar. (for example, stipends only gor certain races and such)

We are talking about a % of a minority position since only ~38% of Americans have a bachelors degree or higher. How many people really care about this issue given that majority of people in the country don't even have/did not pursue a degree from one of these institutions that had affirmative action policies.

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Post by kentrado »

sleiben wrote: post #40
racked wrote: post #13

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The «master» to «main» change was totally unnecessary and B.S. imho. Even 15 years ago, when I started my professional journey (in Germany) there were a lot of people who were gay, trans and so on in the dev community … and nobody cared about it. We were all passioned about technologies and respected each other based on commitment/engagement/skill level. At the end most of the true full blood developers were always «…

As a black person, the switch from master to main, is the most condescendingly racist thing that has been widely adopted in tech. It says "black people are too stupid to understand context. We (small group of white people) must protect them against words."

Another thing it does, is that it promotes the identification of blacks as slaves when all races have been enslaved (and continue to this day).

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Post by tomjen3 »

threeseed wrote: post #59
tticvs wrote: post #37

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I'd never hire a software engineer who tried to make major disruptive changes to play meaningless language games and score social status points.

It may be meaningless to you. But it's not meaningless to other people. Now you can choose not to care about their opinion and be dismissive of their integrity by claiming it's only for social status. But you're never going to hire the best engineers if that's the approach you take. I've worked with some of the very best in the industry and never seen anyone do great things by being intolerant of people.

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Post by [deleted] »

Akronymus wrote: post #48
makeitdouble wrote: post #34

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It think it comes in waves. There's a phase of progress and real social changes, laws get passed to correct past issues, the media warms up a lot towards minorities etc. Then comes the reaction, as too much visible change happens, opposing groups organize and try to re-anchor their position, will push as hard a possible to undo some of the progress and carve out areas where they'll be able to protect their values. I…

IMO the newest wave of racism stems from the blowback to racist policies like affirmative action and similar. (for example, stipends only gor certain races and such)

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Post by blueflow »

sleiben wrote: post #40
racked wrote: post #13

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The «master» to «main» change was totally unnecessary and B.S. imho. Even 15 years ago, when I started my professional journey (in Germany) there were a lot of people who were gay, trans and so on in the dev community … and nobody cared about it. We were all passioned about technologies and respected each other based on commitment/engagement/skill level. At the end most of the true full blood developers were always «…

Thats also my observation.

Whats new is that people now base their identity around it and expect some kind of validation to happen. Do a mental scenario where people did that not with gender identity, but with their heritage or national identity.

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Post by nebula8804 »

iwonthecase wrote: post #3

Again?

Yeah I know right? Didn't they settle for a massive amount last time?

I'll never forget the infamous 'lack of toilet paper' story that came out of Giga Nevada. It freakin came back when Musk bought Twitter: this time garbage piling up and no toilet paper at Twitter. I don't know what is it with Musk and toilet paper but it seems like all these companies have poor organizational issues.

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Post by sschueller »

sleiben wrote: post #40
racked wrote: post #13

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The «master» to «main» change was totally unnecessary and B.S. imho. Even 15 years ago, when I started my professional journey (in Germany) there were a lot of people who were gay, trans and so on in the dev community … and nobody cared about it. We were all passioned about technologies and respected each other based on commitment/engagement/skill level. At the end most of the true full blood developers were always «…

I can understand the master/slave thing as it does directly come from "slavery" so although I think it's stupid to change git I can see it being an issue. Not being from the US I never realized why the large bedroom in a house was called the master bedroom.

Changing blacklist and whitelist to allowlist and denylist is however stupid.

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