They didn't ban E2E, did they?
Apparently they did, it was just talk, the law didn't actually change.
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2023/09/today-uk-parliament-un...
UK Parliament passes Online Safety Bill
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#72Now this is a headline I didn't want to see pass. I wonder if Apple will do what they said and pull iMessage and FaceTime. Same with Meta and WhatsApp.
I think most of the companies saying they would pull out said they would because of the parts of the bill targeting end to end encryption. I thought they dropped that part of the bill, I may be mistaken though.
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#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
Pretty much. I’m not sure if it got included but if it was feasibly possible they absolutely would — which is just as bad in my opinion. Lack of capability does not nullify intent.
It was included, I think the wording was changed to include something like "when technically feasible" or similar
Nothing was changed. The government just trotted out a nobody to make a statement that basically said "we won't do it until we think it can be done"; the sensationalist media thought they had got their U-turn, ran a few headlines, and moved on.
The bill just passed as it was.
The British establishment is occasionally infuriating.
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#75Yes ... because we've seen how well regulators have managed everything else in the UK ... Water? Energy? Everything else? Man, this is going to be fantastic ... The UK has an problem with regulation ... amongst everything else in this sh!thole.
That's because those regulations are written by people who despise regulations. They are meant to fail, so that eventually "the free market" (aka their rich friends) will get free reign, because "regulation clearly failed!".
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#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
It was included, I think the wording was changed to include something like "when technically feasible" or similar
Nothing was changed. The government just trotted out a nobody to make a statement that basically said "we won't do it until we think it can be done"; the sensationalist media thought they had got their U-turn, ran a few headlines, and moved on. The bill just passed as it was. The British establishment is occasionally infuriating.
That was 100% on purpose, they won't care and will force a backdoor anyway.
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#77I hope other countries don't copy the UK. With the Internet we have choice of jurisdiction and can happily avoid any cryptography projects operating out of the UK. I don't care if WhatsApp will become wiretapped in the UK. My beloved Matrix operates out of there, that's what concerns me. And I have to use WhatsApp because of its network effect (all my friends and family are on it). I have tried recruiting them on to…
At this point matrix will have to move out from the UK, along with Element too.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nothing was changed. The government just trotted out a nobody to make a statement that basically said "we won't do it until we think it can be done"; the sensationalist media thought they had got their U-turn, ran a few headlines, and moved on. The bill just passed as it was. The British establishment is occasionally infuriating.
That was 100% on purpose, they won't care and will force a backdoor anyway.
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Why is the UK government in collapse? The same reasons as the US?
Our country is crumbling and people are starting to realise it’s the Tory’s fault. 13 years of Tory rule, cutting services to the bone and making themselves rich at our expense is seriously taking its toll. Councils are going bankrupt, schools are falling apart, public transport is in managed decline in a lot of areas, various sectors regularly going on strike, people can’t afford their bills, mortgages sky-rocketed,…
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#80Relevant, ORG warns of threat to privacy and free speech as Online Safety Bill is passed - https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/org-warns-of-... > Open Rights Group has warned that Online Safety Bill, which has been passed in parliament, will make us less secure by threatening our privacy and undermining our freedom of expression. This includes damaging the privacy and security of children and young people…
It seems that a lot of people idiotically think that what is best for the children is for them to live in a dystopia.
"Think of the children", except the population increasingly doesn't have any. It's nice then to imagine that approach would stop working at some point in the future, but probably not.