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Google doesn't even properly handle emails sent by Google Groups subscribers to a Google Group! I have seen many cases where Gmail spam-tags a post to a group, when the list is closed for posting to any but subscribers...
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It’s not that much different. I was on Usenet from the late 80s till the web ate it. It was more like stack exchange and Reddit. But with far far fewer people involved. abpe was the best place for porn. Slash fiction was coming of age. Memes didn’t quite exist yet because posting images was not a thing. It the egos and attitudes were the same.
A big difference was that everyone got everything on a group, and it was much more async than current alternatives. You could spend a day working on a reply, and people would get it next time they downloaded messages. Everything now seems to focus on "the now", incentivizing fast replies and new content. Though, as the other responder mentions, it certainly would struggle with "web scale" amount of participants.
I distinctly remember thinking that this was really efficient. At the very least, it made lists a lot more entertaining to read than they would be today.
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No. I mean technically yes but this wouldn't solve the actual problem: mass human communication at scale. Usenet was a decent shot at this problem but it lost to other solutions. Yes, all the current solutions are pretty bad but they aren't worse than Usenet. In particular Usenet had zero spam protection, Google stewardship or not.
I’m old enough to remember the original Canter and Siegel spam, and yes, it was on Usenet. What amazes me is that in 2023 people still launch social networks where spam prevention is not at the center.
Having said that, they must have been right, because spam has never dwindled away like Usenet News did. That may very well have been their fault, too.
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I've read somewhere that Google extensively uses mailing lists internally. They’re probably using the same codebase for their internal mailing lists, and the storage costs effectively nothing to them.
Googler here. You are correct. Internally google groups are the easiest way to create adhoc project groups and support / announce lists. We have everything from music related lists, to stuff like vim/emacs user groups
I have trouble imagining what a vim/emacs user group would be: either some sort of nonstop abusive flamewar or some kind of kumbaya group you can only join if you can prove you're on a dangerously high dose of lithium.
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Googler here. You are correct. Internally google groups are the easiest way to create adhoc project groups and support / announce lists. We have everything from music related lists, to stuff like vim/emacs user groups
How about doing customer service with it? Google: nah. Honestly I shouldn't even suggest that, it will probably get google groups closed in a whim.
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It’s not that much different. I was on Usenet from the late 80s till the web ate it. It was more like stack exchange and Reddit. But with far far fewer people involved. abpe was the best place for porn. Slash fiction was coming of age. Memes didn’t quite exist yet because posting images was not a thing. It the egos and attitudes were the same.
A big difference was that everyone got everything on a group, and it was much more async than current alternatives. You could spend a day working on a reply, and people would get it next time they downloaded messages. Everything now seems to focus on "the now", incentivizing fast replies and new content. Though, as the other responder mentions, it certainly would struggle with "web scale" amount of participants.
Deja news did so much better than google. It was the first and only lesson I needed about google. Good software is not the business they’re in.
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Googler here. You are correct. Internally google groups are the easiest way to create adhoc project groups and support / announce lists. We have everything from music related lists, to stuff like vim/emacs user groups
> Internally google groups are the easiest way to create adhoc project groups..like vim/emacs user groups I have trouble imagining what a vim/emacs user group would be: either some sort of nonstop abusive flamewar or some kind of kumbaya group you can only join if you can prove you're on a dangerously high dose of lithium.
A lot of the spam is trying to sell really illegal drugs like LSD, I went to their website (won't link but obviously you can find it easily) and their checkout process for buying a bunch of LSD takes PayPal and Google Pay. They also have a $150 minimum, lol... ...is this "legit", besides the whole illegal drugs thing? Selling drugs with PayPal , on a .com? I remember people doing it with Bitcoin and Tor but this is v…
No way Paypal or GooglePay would allow such a thing longer than a few hours, just enough for their own crawling engine, intented to automate verification of compliance to their policies, to ring the alarm bell on the screen of a human operator.
No way also a scammer would be dumb enough to use such services which require extensive verification process, with ID, proof of incorporation and so on...
It's just FBI, DEA or whatever, 'sting' operations. Like the kind of website where you can buy Red Sulfurous from somewhere in eastern europe countries(for example bellarus), but when you make a Whois of the website, it leads straight to an obscure hosting company located in... California.
The reason they asking minimum $150 (or even more on some website) order is because they want to use it as an argument in court to prove your intentions were to resell it, no matter if it's true or not, in order to force you to take a plea deal and send you in jail for 3-10 years and ruin your life forever.
Why do they do such thing when there is so much real real shit, in every sense of the word, going through mexican border ? Because it allows them to improve their stats on the back of idiots or naive young people who don't know were else to go.
There is a shitload of reports of orther similar false flag operations from US LE regarding 'terrorists', 'sexual predators', and on and on.
Just take a look at https://www.sugardaddy.com/ for example... This site promotes with no other possible interpretation prostitution, while presenting it as something else than prostitution, and while prostitution, to my knowledge, is forbidden everywhere in America. This site has been up for years (I know about it because Bill Maher made a joke about it years ago). The worse is you export your methods to other parts of the world (look at the bottom of the page) (UK, Australia, Canada, where prostitution is forbidden). But funnily enough (do I dare say?) New Zeeland, one of the rare country (if not the only one) were prostition is legal and regulated, is not represented at the bottom of the site.
A few days ago, there was a post here about an article regarding 'testilying' from police officers in court.
It's no wonder so much american people don't trust their government and accumulate tons of gun to defend themself from it... just in case.
There is something rotten in the Kingdom of the United State of America.
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> Internally google groups are the easiest way to create adhoc project groups..like vim/emacs user groups I have trouble imagining what a vim/emacs user group would be: either some sort of nonstop abusive flamewar or some kind of kumbaya group you can only join if you can prove you're on a dangerously high dose of lithium.
Seems to me that "vim/emacs user groups" are wildly different from "vim/emacs user group".
Also groups that trade baking recipes in org-mode format plus vim macros so they can share the fun.