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Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by dmccarty »

Ahhh fonts, where everyone gets an opinion and they're all super important.

If you're designing a font not just for legibility, but primarily for safety, then it seems extremely important that each glyph is uniquely distinguishable from other glyphs. Although this font has different characters for 1/I/l, at a quick glance an uppercase i could still be confused with a pipe (|), and 0 (zero) and O (capital o).[1] I'm sure there are more. So from that standpoint, this font fails for me for legibility/safety.

Also a nitpick, but assuming Chrome is using 60pt B612 font for the title (../fonts/B612-Regular.woff), the "B/6/1" glyphs are hideously formed (that "1" puke) and make me doubt the rest of the character set.

[1] e.g., the FAA has already addressed this with tail numbers: https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificates/aircraft_certifica...

Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by jacobr1 »

Eduard wrote: post #55
racingmars wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a failure if it meets its stated goals. It's not trying to be a programmer's font, a terminal font, etc. It's specifically only trying to be a font for cockpit displays. On that front, there isn't really a context where I and l would be ambiguous in context. The only place I can think of would be waypoint names, but those are always all caps, so I and L don't present any problem. On the other hand, putting c…

> It's specifically only trying to be a font for cockpit displays. On that front, there isn't really a context where I and l would be ambiguous in context. So for example IATA and ICAO airport codes are not within the context of an airplane cockpit? And the visual difference between "laa" and "Iaa" doesn't matter? The first one is Lamar Municipal Airport, while the second one is Igarka Airport.

In those cases, they always would be in caps.

So you get LAA and IAA, which are indeed distinct in the typeface.

Nevertheless they (and most other typefaces) should have avoided the ambiguity.

Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by Xunjin »

This font is so spectacular, for some reason unknown yet to me, numerous fonts give me headaches/“tired eyes” when I used it the first time was a blessing I could perceive the difference in a week. A shame that, depending on the application, they look hideous.

Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by Xunjin »

brandonasuncion wrote: post #4

I really like the font aesthetically, and I'd use it as a coding font. However, the brackets and parentheses look too similar at smaller sizes, and arrows (ie. -> and =>) don't quite line up properly.

Every time that I pair with someone, they always get confused about it, after months you get adjusted, might be caused by the syntax when coding.

Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by bhtru »

zoidb wrote: post #24

Another font that has a similar aim is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkinson_Hyperlegible I find that it strikes a balance between aesthetics and legibility. Two differences I noticed immediately are the 0 and I characters which are much more difficult to distinguish with this font.

Do you know of other fonts with the same goal as Atkinson Hyperlegible? It's gorgeous.

Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by delfinom »

starkparker wrote: post #70
ricardobeat wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It’s very unfortunate that these glyphs are not available via OT features or font-variant in CSS. I assume the cockpit software uses glyphs directly instead of using OpenType. There are two open tickets about it, the second is almost four years old, maybe someone here who is familiar with the tooling could contribute? https://github.com/polarsys/b612/issues/24 https://github.com/polarsys/b612/issues/20#issuecomment-5…

Even the font's designers were unable to contribute due to a lack of merge rights, since they weren't elected by the Eclipse foundation. https://github.com/polarsys/b612/issues/10#issuecomment-4719... The only user who's demonstrated merge rights on the repo is the repo's Eclipse Foundation project lead, Laurent Spaggiari: https://projects.eclipse.org/content/laurent-spaggiari-proje... Who's the only listed contribut…

Good to see the Eclipse Foundation killed something, again, due to shear incompetence.

Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by nabla9 »

zoidb wrote: post #24

Another font that has a similar aim is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atkinson_Hyperlegible I find that it strikes a balance between aesthetics and legibility. Two differences I noticed immediately are the 0 and I characters which are much more difficult to distinguish with this font.

Thank you. I have been trying to find this font again but I didn't remember it's name. I had it maybe a year installed in my previous computer and I loved it. Really good for coding.

Re: B612 Font Family

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Post by deknuv »

For those who wish for a font family to have distinguishable capital "eye" from lowercase "ell", the following is a recommended test: how does the font render "Illegal1=O0"
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