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Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by [deleted] »

nikeee wrote: post #48
boxed wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish there was a better way for the community to handle this situation without the original author doing what we see here. Sometimes the original author dies unexpectedly for example and it's very hard to salvage the work into a maintained fork. I wrote about this in 2018: https://kodare.net/2018/06/25/salvaging-abandoned-projects.h...

You can set a successor in your GitHub settings: https://docs.github.com/github/setting-up-and-managing-your-... That successor will gain access to the _public_ repos of your account after presenting a death certificate. As it's only for public repositories, it's a no-brainer for me.

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Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by ohgodplsno »

blueflow wrote: post #68
ohgodplsno wrote: post #50

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pneumatic drill: 8 years, dead the sharp stick of metal my dad gave me: 38 years and counting long live the sharp stick of metal ? What a terrible take. Yes, ls is maintained. Although, maintained is a very strong word. It exists. It's getting a few maintenance commits here and there, and in the mean time, it's feature done. It won't evolve anymore. Just like how exa will keep existing, and won't evolve anymore. Exa…

Good for you if you accept that your tools might get rug-pulled from you any time. I don't.

Is exa gone ? Can you not download exa anymore ? Are the binaries deleted from the internet ? Is the source completely overwritten ? Has it been removes from crates.io and from package managers ? Has it suddenly stopped listing files in your folders?

Calling it having your tools rug-pulled from you is, quite frankly, the most moronic thing I've read today.

Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by UkiahSmith »

arjvik wrote: post #4

I've been using LSD instead of Exa, so I'm lightly relieved that I don't have to change over. Both projects are amazing little utilities that when combined with a well-customized shell, really make using the terminal a joy. I absolutely love the trend of rewriting classic Unix utilities in rust, because the new tools often have (small or large) usability and quality of life improvements that altogether make the termi…

I much prefer lsd over exa, as lsd has better backwards compatibility with the flags. Specifically `-t` for sorting by time, exa has it specify the time field used.

Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by Klonoar »

scbrg wrote: post #46
sanderjd wrote: post #44

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YMMV, but many of us find it easier to maintain rust + cargo than the old C + autotools mess.

And yet, exa is deprecated :-)

If the owner is outright missing, to the point where the newer fork owners can't even get the repo archived, one would reasonably assume that they'd need to rename/rebrand the tool in order to publish it elsewhere.

It frankly doesn't seem like a deprecation in the traditional sense.

Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by blueflow »

ohgodplsno wrote: post #72
blueflow wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good for you if you accept that your tools might get rug-pulled from you any time. I don't.

Is exa gone ? Can you not download exa anymore ? Are the binaries deleted from the internet ? Is the source completely overwritten ? Has it been removes from crates.io and from package managers ? Has it suddenly stopped listing files in your folders? Calling it having your tools rug-pulled from you is, quite frankly, the most moronic thing I've read today.

Not yet.

Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by cb321 »

arjvik wrote: post #4

I've been using LSD instead of Exa, so I'm lightly relieved that I don't have to change over. Both projects are amazing little utilities that when combined with a well-customized shell, really make using the terminal a joy. I absolutely love the trend of rewriting classic Unix utilities in rust, because the new tools often have (small or large) usability and quality of life improvements that altogether make the termi…

> I absolutely love the trend of rewriting classic Unix utilities

This was actually a big draw of GNU implementations in the mid-to-late 1980s vs. the "then classics" of the mid-to-late-1970s. Before the dominance of Linux / OSX, people on SunOS / Ultrix / HP-UX / Irix / AIX / *BSD would often quickly install those more featureful GNU utilities. I imagine AIX/*BSD people still do.

Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by blowski »

michaelmior wrote: post #53
dahfizz wrote: post #49

Yet another example of why I don't trust any software that markets itself as "modern". In another 20 years, ls will still work perfectly fine.

And it will still lack many of the features that exa has. Although it's no longer maintained, I suspect it will also continue to work for a long time. There's also a fork that is still maintained. Personally, I tend to avoid using replacements for POSIX tools in any shell scripts where possible for this reason. But in terms of what I use day-to-day in interactive sessions, I'll take whatever improvements modern tools…

a.k.a. tradeoffs. You can have more features for less stability, so you need to decide what you care more about in a given context.

Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by sillysaurusx »

sod wrote: post #60
dahfizz wrote: post #49

Yet another example of why I don't trust any software that markets itself as "modern". In another 20 years, ls will still work perfectly fine.

The owner of a repository dying (assumption) is an example why you don't trust modern software? The active maintainers moved the project to a shared repository with a different name 2 years after the creator was seen anywhere.

(Not to take away from your point.) According to https://bsago.me/tech-notes/feed.json the creator was active in September 2022, one year ago. So it’s probably best to assume they’re ok.

Personally, I view it as a big success for open source. Someone can make something cool and vanish, and it still lives on via fork. It’s hard to think of any other type of work where that’s possible.

Re: Exa Is Deprecated

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Post by scbrg »

sanderjd wrote: post #61
scbrg wrote: post #46

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And yet, exa is deprecated :-)

Yes but people did not find it daunting to create a fork. But if what the comment I replied to meant by "capable of maintaining them myself" was about having an organizational structure where they could become an official maintainer of the official project rather than needing to fork it if the owner becomes unavailable, then yep, that's a great point about these single-owner projects. But my original interpretation w…

OK. Then we interpreted that comment differently. To me the point was that with ls, you don't need to worry about what happens when it's abandoned. You know it's going to be there in ten years. And probably fifty too.
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