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> ...administratium causes one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than a second. Let x = administartium slowdown effect = 4 days / 1 second x = 4 days * 24 hours / day x = 96 hours * 60 minutes / hour x = 5760 minutes * 60 seconds / minute x = 345600 seconds Wrote this out to also convince myself, I am 35, did physics for 3 years in undergrad, and am apparently st…
Wow. Such a better illustration to compare 4 days to 3170 years than comparing 2.73 nanoseconds to a femtosecond. It makes me realize how linear my in-the-moment imagination of nano to femto is.
Scientists use quantum device to slow chemical process by factor of 100B
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Re: Scientists use quantum device to slow chemical process by factor of 100B
#72I was reading a book hoping to work out how to derive E=mc2. My idea was to go from being about 400 years behind science to merely being 100 years behind. This sort of reporting makes me realise those 100 years are not linear. I had to go check that this was real - https://www.nature.com/articles/s41557-023-01300-3 , because it could have as easily been a marketing site for the next Marvel movie for all I could groun…
This is really a bad idea to study anything. Actually this is what sets aside naïve hobbyist interested in Physics vs someone studying Physics systematically and efficiently as part of PhD program. I did this mistake repeatedly. I started with annotated version of Newton's Principia, spent about a year just pulling my hair and gave up to realize how much time I had lost in all kind of minutia, noise and random things…
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. An analogue system is not a simulation. A simulation is some approximation - a model - of a physical system that you compute with some finite precision. An analogue is a physical entity with the same physics as some other thing. A straightforward engineering example would be scale model of an airplane in a wind-tunnel.
MONIAC was an analogue system which implemented a model - an approximation - of the UK economy. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MONIAC > The MONIAC (Monetary National Income Analogue Computer), also known as the Phillips Hydraulic Computer and the Financephalograph, was created in 1949 by the New Zealand economist Bill Phillips to model the national economic processes of the United Kingdom, while Phillips was a st…
Analogue: something that is similar or comparable to something else either in general or in some specific detail : something that is [analogous] to something else
Analog: of, relating to, or being a mechanism or device in which information is represented by continuously variable physical quantities
GP's comment has nothing to do with whether the simulation is "analog" (as opposed to digital), their point is that instead of being a "model" of a way a physical system might behave, the mechanism in this case has the exact same physical properties represented in a different form. An example might be doing a calculation in decimal vs doing it in binary—the exact steps you take will look different, and the answer might look strange, but there's absolutely no doubt about the fact that you'll get the same answer however you happen to compute it. Another synonym for the word "analogue" in the sense that the GP is using it might be "isomorphism"—you can prove that some transformation holds, and then you can do whatever you want to the transformed version and know that the results you get can be "transformed back" to the original form and reinterpreted.
Re: Scientists use quantum device to slow chemical process by factor of 100B
#74Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried reading e.g. Plato and I just want to argue with him forever. That’s the whole point of reading Plato. You’re being exposed to the Socratic method.
Then I have not explained myself correctly. If I take a philosophy class, I can talk to teacher, discuss things,explore questions and Contradictions. And I do :-). When Plato says "let us all agree there exists a perfect blue independent of any real world blue", I want to argue that no, "blue" is a human construct and dependent on accidental biology. We can't even make sure thay we all experience the same blue and wh…
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#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is really a bad idea to study anything. Actually this is what sets aside naïve hobbyist interested in Physics vs someone studying Physics systematically and efficiently as part of PhD program. I did this mistake repeatedly. I started with annotated version of Newton's Principia, spent about a year just pulling my hair and gave up to realize how much time I had lost in all kind of minutia, noise and random things…
Yeah the beauty of physics is that the idea can always be abstracted and re-explained in an easier to digest way. It's extremely rare that the first presentation of an idea is a very nice way to understand it. Also, the fashion of physics changes. Back in the day, physicists seemed much more comfortable writing long intuitive arguments with lots of words, and were always happy with a strong connection to classical ph…
Re: Scientists use quantum device to slow chemical process by factor of 100B
#76Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is really a bad idea to study anything. Actually this is what sets aside naïve hobbyist interested in Physics vs someone studying Physics systematically and efficiently as part of PhD program. I did this mistake repeatedly. I started with annotated version of Newton's Principia, spent about a year just pulling my hair and gave up to realize how much time I had lost in all kind of minutia, noise and random things…
As a complete novice, I had a similar revelation naively trying to derive one of Maxwell's mind-blowing insights connecting light to magnetism. It was well accepted that if you just divided the electric constant by the magnetic constant (in their respective inverse square force formulas), you end up calculating the speed of light. The units and numbers matched up nicely using old definitions and units. I wanted to se…
https://phys.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/University_Physics/B...
Re: Scientists use quantum device to slow chemical process by factor of 100B
#77In order to describe chemical reactions or atomic arrangements in terms of wave equations one normally treats the motion of the nuclei (slow/heavy) and the motion of the electrons (fast/light) separately simplifying the Schrödinger equation to the Born-Oppenheimer approximation.
In introductory chemistry textbooks [0] a diatomic example is mostly used as an illustration, for >2 atoms usually only the ground state is considered. This is because (1) in a diatomic setting the vibrational degree of freedom in the nucleus reduces to 1 and (2) the ground state can be well distinguished from other electronic states.
However when studying (advanced theoretical) chemistry or material sciences, polyatomic arrangement with tightly packed electronic states and a lot of nuclear degrees of freedom are the norm and the theory of so-called conical intersection of electronic energies essential in that regard.
Early on this was taken into account as the Jahn-Teller distortion[1]: a kind of spontaneous symmetry-breaking which seemed exotic when it was first described in the 1930s; in that same vein Teller later proposed an ultrarare occurrence within a few vibrational periods (sub-femtoseconds) by which a loss of electronic excitation was not followed by a photon being emitted: radiationless decay. Now, in refined orbital models [2] this seems to be a normal state of affairs e.g. in organic chemistry.[3]
Because of the tiny time scales involved theoretically predicted phenomena like a Geometrical phase/Berry phase (which itself has the Foucault pendulum in relation to Earth's latitude as its mechanical analogue [4]) have not been observed, yet. So borrowing from a topological analogue (Dirac points) [5] a quantum simulation seemed feasible.
To be honest the actual paper [6] linked in the article was hard to follow through so I found a similar paper [7] where the presentation of the general idea is more clear and concise.
[0]https://chem.libretexts.org/Courses/Pacific_Union_College/Qu...
[1]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jahn%E2%80%93Teller_effect
[2]https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/9426023.pdf
[3]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quenching_(fluorescence)
[4]https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geometric_phase#Foucault_pen...
[5]https://condensedconcepts.blogspot.com/2015/08/conical-inter...
Re: Scientists use quantum device to slow chemical process by factor of 100B
#78You've got to love the declaration at the end of the article: > The research was supported by grants from the US Office of Naval Research; the US Army Research Office Laboratory for Physical Sciences; the US Intelligence Advanced Research Projects Activity; Lockheed Martin; the Australian Defence Science and Technology Group, Sydney Quantum; a University of Sydney-University of California San Diego Partnership Collab…
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#79Earlier quoted context omitted.
MONIAC was an analogue system which implemented a model - an approximation - of the UK economy. From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MONIAC > The MONIAC (Monetary National Income Analogue Computer), also known as the Phillips Hydraulic Computer and the Financephalograph, was created in 1949 by the New Zealand economist Bill Phillips to model the national economic processes of the United Kingdom, while Phillips was a st…
You're getting confused between the words "Analog" and "Analogue". Analogue: something that is similar or comparable to something else either in general or in some specific detail : something that is [analogous] to something else Analog: of, relating to, or being a mechanism or device in which information is represented by continuously variable physical quantities GP's comment has nothing to do with whether the simul…
Ahh, "analogue - (mostly Commonwealth) Alternative form of analog" https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/analogue#Adjective .
https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/example/english/analogue... gives examples like "The new digital technology—which we welcome—merely replaces the present analogue system" and others.
English is a nuisance.
Re: Scientists use quantum device to slow chemical process by factor of 100B
#80Earlier quoted context omitted.
I tried reading e.g. Plato and I just want to argue with him forever. That’s the whole point of reading Plato. You’re being exposed to the Socratic method.
Then I have not explained myself correctly. If I take a philosophy class, I can talk to teacher, discuss things,explore questions and Contradictions. And I do :-). When Plato says "let us all agree there exists a perfect blue independent of any real world blue", I want to argue that no, "blue" is a human construct and dependent on accidental biology. We can't even make sure thay we all experience the same blue and wh…
Assuming some premise for the sake of an argument is not just a plato thing, and its not particularly relavent if the specific premise is true.