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How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Culturally normalized cheating. Also gives advantage to those with rich parents who can afford the time.

It's cheating to help a 7 year old understand how to do basic math? Because the alternative is them staring at a paper and writing random numbers down.

So what do they do in school all day?

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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I’ve found that if I really want to learn something, I just get up an hour early, makes some coffee/tea and get to it. It’s the only thing I can control with any certainty. The quiet time while everyone is asleep provides a distraction free environment. I also like giving my most productive/energetic time to my own projects/learning, as opposed to work, but that is just me. After work time is for dinner, family, and…

Just me personally, but I have significantly more trouble getting up early than staying up late. My family obligations end around 10pm (my toddlers are night owls too) I naturally arise at 8am, and I would spend 30-45 minutes trying to go to sleep 90 minutes earlier and wake up at 6:30 instead. It’s over an hour if I try and wake up at 5 and I am likely to sleep through my alarm. I tried this for weeks and it did not improve.

By contrast, staying up to 12-1am is effortless and I get a solid 2-3 hours of independent time to catch up on work or learn

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Culturally normalized cheating. Also gives advantage to those with rich parents who can afford the time.

It's cheating to help a 7 year old understand how to do basic math? Because the alternative is them staring at a paper and writing random numbers down.

I do not call this is cheating. but this is a crazy advantage of children. some kids never learned learning is important, parents can let deep in their mind. teachers have some chance, but there are too many kids in classroom.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Totally agreed. This was my policy with my staff. I straight up told them they can and should take a couple hours a week (tried to start small to make it achievable) on personal development, whether that's reading books, taking courses, etc. I'd even try and brainstorm with them on ways to spend the time. Funny thing is, with one or two exceptions, few did it because they always felt something else was more urgent du…

I think this is sort of like unlimited vacation time policies: if you really want people to take advantage of it because you really believe in its value, you actually have to constantly nudge many, maybe most, people to do it. In the case of training / education, a good solution may be to provide more structure. Get a group of people to sign up for an actual structured class (or run one yourself), and set the expecta…

Another commenter also made a very good point: you've gotta let off the gas a bit. If everyone is going flat out, the surrounding pressures will cause people to prioritize being responsive to those pressures.

But that requires a fundamental change in organizational productivity culture and means this kind of policy probably needs to be implemented -- and critically, measured -- at the corporate level so people collectively recognize that learning time is sacrosanct.

No big deal!

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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post #71

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It's cheating to help a 7 year old understand how to do basic math? Because the alternative is them staring at a paper and writing random numbers down.

So what do they do in school all day?

Because everyone has personalized tutors at school.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Get up at 6am. Get kids ready for school. Help my wife with any chores around the house for a bit. Start working. Lift on my lunch break in my home gym. Back to work. Kids come home. Feed them. Help with homework. Do something with them outside weather permitting. Put them to bed, read to/with them. Get lunches ready for tomorrow. Load the dishwasher. Load the laundry. My turn to walk the dog. Be mentally and physica…

"Help with homework", I have seen this in movies. Is this a cultural thing? I don't know any parents that help there children with homework.

Not sure what other regions are like, but i believe this is more necessary the less children receive adequate attention in the school setting. Ie overfilled schools warrant more individual time outside of school.

Without "help with homework", the child may have gotten no individual instruction/teaching, so how are they expected to learn?

Even beyond that though there's the possibility of needing more and/or unique care. Parents are the end-of-the-road for ensuring that they raise a capable, educated human. Some children just struggle in standard school settings.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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It's not worth it to me. I learn on the job. Your job really should be willing to set aside time for you to learn things. It's not mentally healthy for me to continue work related things after hours. I need to exercise, rest, spend time with kid etc. Otherwise, major burnout will ensue.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Get up at 6am. Get kids ready for school. Help my wife with any chores around the house for a bit. Start working. Lift on my lunch break in my home gym. Back to work. Kids come home. Feed them. Help with homework. Do something with them outside weather permitting. Put them to bed, read to/with them. Get lunches ready for tomorrow. Load the dishwasher. Load the laundry. My turn to walk the dog. Be mentally and physica…

"Help with homework", I have seen this in movies. Is this a cultural thing? I don't know any parents that help there children with homework.

Homework shouldn't exist anyway. Maybe, for higher level high school classes it makes sense. There's no reason to be giving homework to elementary and middle school kids. They get them for 8 hours a day, they don't need to be spending more time on school stuff after school.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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You can't really learn anything just consuming content, you have to put the work. This works for keeping up with news and trends tough.

Agreed, this isn't learning, this is keeping up to date with things. Some of this might lead to stuff you want to learn, but that comes on top.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Get up at 6am. Get kids ready for school. Help my wife with any chores around the house for a bit. Start working. Lift on my lunch break in my home gym. Back to work. Kids come home. Feed them. Help with homework. Do something with them outside weather permitting. Put them to bed, read to/with them. Get lunches ready for tomorrow. Load the dishwasher. Load the laundry. My turn to walk the dog. Be mentally and physica…

One thing I realize while reading this is that, having recently signed up for a local gym, I'll lose that "alone time in the home gym", where I would often listen to podcasts and watch videos while I lift. Sure, I can get some headphones and lug my phone around at the local gym, but it's certainly not as conducive to learning as having a screen set up that I can walk around and view as I work out.
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