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Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I dislike the attitude of those who reject ads but also refuse to pay. How is this any different from changing the channel, leaving the room, or just hitting the mute button and closing your eyes in the scenario of "regular" TV when adverts or any other content you don't want to see appears? Compelled consumption should be illegal.

The assumption is that not many people would leave the room, close their eyes or mute the ads. If you created a painless, super easy way to remove all ads, i'm sure that TV channels will also find it hard to sell to advertisers, and thus, their revenue would decrease.

If you created a painless, super easy way to remove all ads

We had that almost 3 decades ago:

https://www.orlandosentinel.com/1995/09/20/with-this-vcr-com...

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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post #37

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

I too am happy pay for nice things, but I am never happy to pay a monopolist just on principle; so I don't.

But you're happy to use the monopolist's service.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

I dislike the attitude of those who reject ads but also refuse to pay. How is this any different from changing the channel, leaving the room, or just hitting the mute button and closing your eyes in the scenario of "regular" TV when adverts or any other content you don't want to see appears? Compelled consumption should be illegal.

If the ad is displayed but you don't watch it you're hurting the advertiser, but id the ad is not displayed at all you're hurting the platform.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#74

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

I dislike the attitude of those who reject ads but also refuse to pay. How is this any different from changing the channel, leaving the room, or just hitting the mute button and closing your eyes in the scenario of "regular" TV when adverts or any other content you don't want to see appears? Compelled consumption should be illegal.

It's different becaue regular broadcast TV pay a fee to get the channel out of a limited amount of available spot, and then use that limited available spot to have higher ad price.

Of course on cabled channels, they get part of the fee of your package.

There is no "compelessed consumption", there is available package "this for free with ads", or "this for a fee", you're free to chose the one you want or neither.

I'm certain your company whichever it is would have an issue if I wanted to use its services but then run away when it came time to pay the bill.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#75

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

I use Youtube through Piped ( https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped ) to preserve privacy, block ads, and prevent getting sucked in by the algorithm. The only part of Youtube that I find valuable is the content. Not the UI, not the comments, algorithm. Free content hosting is nice, but it's not the only platform hosting videos for free. If I wanted to pay for a streaming service, it'd be Nebula ( https://nebula.tv/ ), b…

> If I wanted to pay for a streaming service, it'd be Nebula (https://nebula.tv/), because I know it benefits creators

Huh? Ad revenue and Premium subscription also ends up as direct payouts for YouTube creators, what are you talking about? Why the need for this BS?

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

By that logic we shouldn't be even a allowed to look away or mute our sound when the ads are playing, after all if enough people did it it would be just as "damaging" as people with ad blockers. Also, YouTube is a video streaming monopoly, if it didn't exist there would be a significant chance of new streaming platforms to succeed, but given that it captured the marked such chance is unlikely to exist, monopoly that…

If the advertisers had their way unimpeded, we'd be in "drink verification can" territory now.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

#77

The only alternatives to a service like youtube showing people ads are for its users to pay for it, for it to be funded through donations, for it to be run by the government and paid for through taxation or for it not to exist. I prefer the first or second approaches and Youtube is unusual among social media sites in actually giving me the first option. So I happily pay for premium and while I'd rather that were the…

There are so many reasons to block ads. Aesthetics alone. Protecting your valuable time. Consenting to watching an ad is not the same as consenting to your entire life being tracked and monitored. But the most important issue is that as long as malware can spread through ads ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malvertising ), everyone should be blocking all ads.

And instead paying for services if there's the option, right?

Or should we just continue consuming people's services and effort while blocking what's sometimes their only revenue stream?

I'd rather not use a service if it has ads and I can't remove them, instead of block them and make everyone else's experience worse.

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> removing the ability for the app to continue to play the clip in the background when switching to another app or locking the phone. Do you know that the paid version has this exact feature? This is a limitation of the ad-supported version, because advertisers are paying to actually have people watch their ad.

Yes

So they didn't remove it did they? You just refuse to pay for that service and spread bs to make you feel better?

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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post #6

that's not really a "flaw" in protobuf; the protobuf is Working As Intended by decoding the field in a different place when you modify it. i am not sure how one could possibly characterize that as a "flaw," since protobuf is a field-numeric length-prefixed protocol in the first place. it makes a (reasonable) assumption that bytes won't be messed with over the wire, leaving integrity to the reader, so even if this _wa…

It says January 2022. So likely if they wanted to harden the protocol after the blog post, they would already have.

But perhaps the article has just got popular now, due to HN?

Re: Block YouTube ads on AppleTV by decrypting and stripping ads from Profobuf

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post #70
post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The assumption is that not many people would leave the room, close their eyes or mute the ads. If you created a painless, super easy way to remove all ads, i'm sure that TV channels will also find it hard to sell to advertisers, and thus, their revenue would decrease.

In my household growing up the ads were almost always muted as soon as the roll started. I always found it bizarre that other people did not do the same

They train you to do this when they volume boost the ads to blow your eardrums out.
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