Adhawk, adhawk.io, has the only all day ultralight eye tracking wearable I'm aware of, all MEMS based with ultra high scan rates, 500Hz+ and research grade accuracy. For ALS u likely need something light and frictionless, wearing a hot and heavy headset all day probably doesn't work.
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#72I've been working on the menuing side [1] based on crossing Fitt's Law with Huffman trees. But, don't know the constraints for ALS.
Hopefully, whomever takes this on doesn't take the standard Accessibility approach, which is adding an extra layer of complexity on an existing UI.
A good friend, Gordon Fuller, found out he was going blind. So, he co-founded one of the first VR startups in the 90's. Why? For wayfinding.
What we came up with is a concept of Universal design. Start over from first principles. Seeing Gordon use an Accessible UI is painful to watch, it takes three times as many steps to navigate and confirm. So, what is the factor? 0.3 X?
Imagine if we could refactor all apps with a LLM, and then couple it with an auto compete menu. Within that menu is personal history of all your past transversals.
What would be the result? A 10X? Would my sister in a wheelchair be able to use it? Would love to find out!
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#73In case anyone is interested: There are plenty of companies around. Both apple and Facebook acquired eye tracking companies to kickstart their own development. Here are some Top-lists https://imotions.com/blog/insights/trend/top-eye-tracking-ha... https://valentinazezelj.medium.com/top-10-eye-tracking-compa... Its also an active research field, this is one of the bigger conferences: https://etra.acm.org/2023/
Re: There are plenty of companies around. I believe Paul Graham can Google or use AI and already knows about the companies and links you posted. His post was a call to action to connect with people working on yet to be discovered innovations and inspire those and others quietly working to come forward and connect with him.
Well I thought people may be interested in learning what is already out there.
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#74Someone should do this, but for the love of god, DO NOT take any venture capital to do it. No matter how well-intentioned the VCs are at the start, eventually your eye tracking startup will 100% be used for advertising as investors in your Series D need to make an exit or take you public.
As we are talking about a company to help people with medical problems.
Second Sight was giving patients artificial eyes. When they ran out of funding, they closed shop. The patients lost support system for their eyes. If anything goes wrong with their artificial eye, there is no one to repair or fix it. They just have to carry a piece of useless metal junk in their head.
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#75https://nitter.net/paulg/status/1695596853864321055 to see more of the thread if not logged in. It'd be good to know what rate we need to beat and some other metrics.
Is anyone speedrunning this? I can't find anything with a quick look.
I'd consider an approach like the human powered helicopter parable.
I'd create a model for the eyes / face. So a screen like a phone is put in front of a camera with a model face and controllable eyes that you use software to control. Maybe skip the screen in front of a camera and link straight into the video feed.
It knows the limits of the eyes (different models for different people and situations) can measure fatigue etc.
You could run billions of simulations....
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#76What about brain waves to control the keyboard?
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#77Earlier quoted context omitted.
This had nothing to do with conservative talking points. It has to do with current capitalism always looking for money but letting the real societal issues ongoing because fixing them doesn't pay enough dividends. Simplified, with current capitalism, doing the right thing doesn't pay off. We have more than enough know-how and technology to fix real issues but we'd rather put rich people in overweight electric cars. Y…
It’s not Musk’s responsibility to fix societal problems, it’s the government’s. He sucks as a person but the companies he’s in charge of are quite useful and I’m happy they exist. I’m watching my government fail every single day at addressing basic issues like homelessness despite near infinite money. They would fail at fast satellite internet and electric cars too.
That's where we disagree then.
I think people do have a responsibility and in a democratic state, government can only be as good as the people it governs.
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#78Earlier quoted context omitted.
It’s not Musk’s responsibility to fix societal problems, it’s the government’s. He sucks as a person but the companies he’s in charge of are quite useful and I’m happy they exist. I’m watching my government fail every single day at addressing basic issues like homelessness despite near infinite money. They would fail at fast satellite internet and electric cars too.
That's where we disagree then. I think people do have a responsibility and in a democratic state, government can only be as good as the people it governs.
I don’t entirely disagree with your point of view, I just question what the hell we pay taxes for if we (the people) are still responsible for all the societal issues. If I have to dedicate a portion of my day’s effort to chipping away at these things then why is the government entitled to a significant portion of my money? It doesn’t make sense to me.
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#79Is the lack of mentioning Apple deliberate? It seems like they've already poured a lot of R&D into this for the Vision Pro, which might be exactly the kind of thing the friend needs.
It's not available yet. And in any case if this is the future there should be multiple companies doing it, not just Apple.
Not just multiple companies, multiple approaches. Eye tracking is exhausting, and that's pretty fundamental to the modality - dwell time requires significant control to be usable as a click, and even able bodied people find it exhausting. Some folks have tried doing eye tracking and using something else (EMG for example) as the click, but it doesn't work consistently for the population. ALS is also progressive, and people lose their eye control. Blackrock Neurotech has been working on a brain implant, with spinal cord injury as a first target population (because they're less fragile, among other reasons), and it works for current research patients, but medical devices take a lot of time, money and work to get cleared in the US. The implant itself is cleared, but the FDA wants the entire system to be cleared too.
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#80EEG recording is an alternative that would outlast the potential disease-related degradation of eye movements. Manny Donchin gave a brown bag at UIUC about the possibilities of using this approach to support communication by ALS patients many years ago. It's clever: they use the P300 marker to index attention/intention. I do not recall whether he and his colleagues ever commercialized the tech. I believe that this pu…
I had this thought, but then I thought about if my friend was struggling with a problem had had practical but imperfect solutions, would I better serve them by funding highly feasible solutions that they're already familiar with, or experimental moonshots that are more likely to fail, will take longer to implement, and my friend may not even care for at all...