> No. Nothing is an urgency. Except some things are.
If they're that urgent, your process is poorly designed.
I'm not usually on the "HN users can't think outside of tech" train, but holy crap.
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#72Is this a really problem? It's vanishingly rare in my experience to here a phone ring these days. Rude people intentionally playing music or other media without headphones is a much larger but still rare phenomenon.
I practice this - DND, no interruptions, etc. - all of the time, with only my wife able to get through via a direct phone call for an emergency. However, when my friends gather for gaming every Friday night at our club - they do not practice this. It is non-stop interruption, chimes from phones, and very long sounds for a text message. I don't know if its a problem but awareness can't hurt.
> with only my wife able to get through via a direct phone call for an emergency
Is nobody except your wife reasonable about when to send an async message versus when to call? You found an exceptional wife then, at least among that population
Also, not having (group) message pings is not the same as not having pings for synchronous calls where someone actually requests your immediate attention. I have two colleagues who have notification sounds on their phone turned on for our company group chat. I don't know what the people around them say, but I'm bothered by it already when they're in 30-minute online meeting with me. Is that the type of "not practicing DND" you mean?
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#73I rarely get calls, so when I do, I usually don't notice it ringing in my pocket. I'd prefer a phone that zapped me.
This is why I love my Apple Watch. Haptic vibrations are really handy!
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#74> The ideal solution should be a mandate to ban all loud phone sounds in public. Loud breathing is still ok? Really weird hill to die on.
I wouldn't mind if people would just use headphones for the music they want to listen to rather than putting it on loud for all the neighbors to hear, so I kind of agree with the general "be conscious of others". But, yeah, conversations at a normal tone in a bus or train should be perfectly fine, including the ten seconds of ringing which that includes... it's those that are trying to talk directly to the communication mast, or people bringing loudspeakers to public places to play their music, that I find bothersome.
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#75It would be cool if, for people you select and obviously trust well (the type that you typically need to pick up a call from) they could record 3 seconds of audio and that would be the "ringtone." This feature would have to be completely 100% opt-in.
It would be cooler and better if this was reliably transcribed to text and displayed with the ringing screen.
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#76This starts off with "I chose..." and ends with "there should be a mandate" It's very easy for people who wear pants to live a life where their phone is never switched off of vibrate mode and lives in their pocket. They will never need a noisy phone, and this is how I life my life. My wife has pockets on about 10% of her clothes, and so typically her phone is in a purse, or on the table next to her. She will not noti…
It's not even about pockets. I will NOT feel my phone vibrate in most cases, even if it's in my pocket and I'm sitting down so my phone is laying on top of my leg.
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#77This starts off with "I chose..." and ends with "there should be a mandate" It's very easy for people who wear pants to live a life where their phone is never switched off of vibrate mode and lives in their pocket. They will never need a noisy phone, and this is how I life my life. My wife has pockets on about 10% of her clothes, and so typically her phone is in a purse, or on the table next to her. She will not noti…
Get a smartwatch and that can vibrate.
I despise the feeling of wearing a watch (or almost anything else around my wrists). They're also a significant added expenses that many can't afford, and not nearly useful enough to actually justify that expense.
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#78This has been a constant bit of friction between my wife and I. To me, the norms are: - Unscheduled calls are if it's an emergency or something that you need an answer to right now - Calling twice in a row is an emergency - SMS if it's important but not urgent - Discord chat if it's just casual messaging or pics This is how my family and everyone else I know communicate, but my wife. My wife will call me repeatedly t…
That sounds pretty standard: normal questions can be a chat message; when it's useful to have an answer soon then SMS or call, or check if they see the message within a minute depending on your urgency. If it's an emergency and the call got pushed away or went unanswered, of course I'll just keep calling. Pretty common sense methinks
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#79> No. Nothing is an urgency. False. There needs to be a break through "this is actually an emergency" way to get through silent mode. My wife keeps her phone silent at all times and on two separate occasions I have had actual emergencies and been unable to reach her. (A car crash where my car was totaled and a separate medical emergency) It's actually infuriating.
Me: going into the store after finishing up a call, call my wife to try and find her
My wife: phone on silent
Me: wander around the store for 5 minutes to find her
My wife: oh sorry my phone was on silent
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#80This has been a constant bit of friction between my wife and I. To me, the norms are: - Unscheduled calls are if it's an emergency or something that you need an answer to right now - Calling twice in a row is an emergency - SMS if it's important but not urgent - Discord chat if it's just casual messaging or pics This is how my family and everyone else I know communicate, but my wife. My wife will call me repeatedly t…
> Discord chat if it's just casual messaging or pics It's interesting to me that discord has become a "default" for you. For my social group, discord is only used for people I only have an online presence with. If I want to do something IRL, I send an SMS or something.
Surprises me too. For decades, we had incremental improvements where more and more privacy and encryption was added to chat apps (e.g.: WhatsApp used to send messages in plain text, then added encryption to the server, then end to end encryption), and then Discord came along with none of that and all the gamers felt a need to use it. Eh?
I was a gamer until just before Discord appeared but what ever happened to things like Mumble and Signal