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Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by freedude »

"A growing uneasy feeling about Google’s approach to user privacy, Manifest v3, Googles’s WebDRM plans, their rejection of JPEG XL and the omnipresence of Chromium-based browsers nowadays – Chrome, Edge, Brave, Vivaldi, Opera and some others are basically the same programs in different clothes."

He hits the nail on the head. Why support the fascist empire when you can support those making it better. That said, if you really wanted a privacy focused browser then the Bromine, Waterfox, Opera, DuckDuckGo and Tempest browsers should all be investigated.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by neals »

Garrrrrr wrote: post #70
neals wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair enough. I just started the latest version and must say, it has really improved. Quality of life probably means I have to look a bit more for where stuff is. And hey, they might have some stuff that Chrome doesn't have, right? So my first one is 'Chrome devtools has a little button to instantly switch to mobile view, where you simulate (more or less) the viewport of various mobile devices'. I don't see this in Fi…

...Really? It's the icon on the top-right of the Fx dev tools menu that looks like a mobile device. Also, both Chrome and Fx use the same keyboard shortcut to activate mobile view (Ctrl + Shift + M)

Yes, really. I'm sorry to disappoint you that I couldn't find the button. It's very much possible though.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by prmoustache »

littlestymaar wrote: post #57
luuurker wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

(I'm replying to the original version of your comment.) How can you have different bookmarks, extensions, and maybe even a different theme (so you know you're using the right window) with containers? The answer is: you can't. Because containers and profiles are different things. That's the "sacrifice" you're asking users to make. To change the way they use browsers, to adapt to something that is useful, but not a com…

> How can you have different bookmarks, extensions, and maybe even a different theme (so you know you're using the right window) > The answer is: you can't. Because containers and profiles are different things. If that's what you need then just use Firefox profiles then! The thing is, most people don't need that, and containers offert better ergonomics for the majority use-case (like the one described in the post). B…

Most people don't use chrome profiles either, this is definitely a power user functionnality.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

#74

Post by deadbunny »

dataflow wrote: post #11
matsemann wrote: post #4

I feel this article almost do more harm than good. It paints a picture that you need to "sacrifice" something to use Fx and lists various "problems". For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Hence why no one cares about making profiles in Fx better, there is already a better solution to the problem profiles solve. Ne…

> Never had problems with font rendering Okay, so what's the logical conclusion here? That the person is lying? The font rendering is very much off, some people just don't notice or don't care. Denying something others see with their own eyes doesn't help anybody.

As a Firefox user I had to open Chrome to check this to see if I had just been living with bad font rendering for the last 20 years.

Firefox uses my system defined default fonts (DejaVu Sans, DejaVu Serif, Hack) where Chrome completely ignores the system fonts.

IMO using the system defaults is the correct action here.

Anyway after manually configuring Chrome to use the system defaults they look identical to me:

Firefox: https://i.imgur.com/Zplpyiq.png

Chrome: https://i.imgur.com/YWkeZjh.png

So no, font rendering on FF seems fine to me...

Maybe I'm getting old and my eyes aren't seeing the differences but they look the same to me.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by grrandalf »

TonyTrapp wrote: post #26
dataflow wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Never had problems with font rendering Okay, so what's the logical conclusion here? That the person is lying? The font rendering is very much off, some people just don't notice or don't care. Denying something others see with their own eyes doesn't help anybody.

As a 15+ years Firefox user: What is "very much off" about Firefox' font rendering? For me it's the opposite, Chrome's rendering looks completely off to me - thin and it looks like the ClearType effect is set to 11. On the other hand, Firefox' font rendering in that screenshot looks like native Windows font rendering to me.

Yeah same. I vastly prefer Firefox’s rendering on windows, Mac, and Linux to chrome’s. In fact that was the main reason I switched many years ago.

Something about chrome DIY’ing font rendering instead of using the platform’s when I last looked into this

Even Edge font rendering started looking way better — only after they switched away from chrome’s diy font rendering.

(Aside: IMO chrome on android is good but all others are bad at font rendering. Probably uses platform rendering on Android)

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by freedude »

pseudotrash wrote: post #5

I love Firefox. The only time I struggle it's because it is the only browser today that correctly implements CORS. This is a good thing. But it means broken middle boxes and MiTM enterprise tech (like Zscaler) should fix their stuff rather than pointing their smelly fingers at Firefox. Mozilla should up its game in educating the public that Edge and Chrome aren't following the standards correctly. This seems IMHO pre…

One of the problems with promoting standards is that standards are made by imperfect committees. And they can solve a different problem than exists in the real world.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by asciimov »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #2

Firefox users don't use profiles, we use something much superior: multi-account containers.

This Firefox user does.

Main account, one for testing (no extensions installed), one for work (with work extensions), one for nsfw content.

Keeps everything nice a separate.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by deadbunny »

matsemann wrote: post #4

I feel this article almost do more harm than good. It paints a picture that you need to "sacrifice" something to use Fx and lists various "problems". For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Hence why no one cares about making profiles in Fx better, there is already a better solution to the problem profiles solve. Ne…

I disagree here as an avid user of containers. Profiles are still a better separation between personas I have my "home" profile and "work" profile in FF and they are trivially launched with `firefox -P "name"` and keep all data completely separated.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by KptMarchewa »

matsemann wrote: post #4

I feel this article almost do more harm than good. It paints a picture that you need to "sacrifice" something to use Fx and lists various "problems". For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Hence why no one cares about making profiles in Fx better, there is already a better solution to the problem profiles solve. Ne…

>For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Hence why no one cares about making profiles in Fx better, there is already a better solution to the problem profiles solve.

I would do that if I could get separate history for a different containers.

Re: Switching from Chrome to Firefox

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Post by [deleted] »

matsemann wrote: post #4

I feel this article almost do more harm than good. It paints a picture that you need to "sacrifice" something to use Fx and lists various "problems". For instance it mentions how troublesome it is to use profiles as a "problem". Don't. Use containers. Hundred times more smooth than profiles. Hence why no one cares about making profiles in Fx better, there is already a better solution to the problem profiles solve. Ne…

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