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As a Firefox and Linux user, I do see that problem. Hardware video acceleration is fine now, and apparently has been for some time. But e.g. Google Meet plainly refuses to blur the video call background when run on Firefox. It happily does that when running in Chromium.
That seems like a Firefox problem, not a Chromium one.
Having never developed a browser engine, my naive question is why is it so hard to develop a new one? We have decent free and/or open-source software in other areas, why is it hard to reproduce this experience with the browsers? Or, is the problem in the complexity of the modern web browsing experience, and the walled garden created around it by current major browser developers (new standards, etc.)?
Web browsers are extraordinarily large and complex applications that conform to reams and reams of constantly expanding standards adding up to tens of millions of lines of code. They have to maintain backwards compatibility with software dating back decades. Their complexity and size rivals the operating systems they run on. All mainstream browsers today are effectively forks or cosmetic skins of a handful remaining…
Gecko (from Netscape 6) in Firefox
And KHTML (from KDE Konqueror) -> Apple Webkit -> Google Blink in everything else.
What problem? I've been using Linux with Firefox for at least 15 years, and I've never thought this to be a problem. Linux is not an operating system for the unwashed masses, it's a specialist operating system for more technical oriented folks. It's less polished in many areas and requires some jumping through hoops at times as we all know. In return, you get a vastly better user experience if you're the right kind o…
Fans of the browser (starting with the guy in my mirror) need to start subscribing to services like their VPN or something to give Mozilla a better financial footing.
'Defining' Linux support:
>> Firefox is first and foremost a Windows browser, followed by macOS second, and Linux third. The love the Linux world has for Firefox is not reciprocated by Mozilla in the same way, and this shows in various places where issues fixed and addressed on the Windows side are ignored on the Linux side for years or longer.
80% of all revenue is from Google:
>> The giant sword of Damocles dangling above Firefox’ head are Mozilla’s really odd and lopsided revenue sources. As most of us are probably aware, Mozilla makes most of its money from a search deal with Google. Roughly 80% of Mozilla’s revenue comes from Google, who pays the browser maker to set Google Search as the default search engine.
Firefox declining usage and anti-trust risks with Google.
>> How long will this deal continue? Will it be renewed indefinitely, regardless of how much farther Firefox slides into irrelevance? Will the size of the deal drop, or will it end altogether? When will Google decide that spending hundreds of millions of dollars every year in what is essentially charity for a competitor is no longer worth it, or needed?
>> Google’s similar search deal with Apple is already facing legal scrutiny; will that scrutiny have consequences for the deal with Mozilla, too?
Solution:
>> "Linux needs a browser engine that is independent of Google (and Apple), and takes Linux seriously as a platform."
Mozilla could have done that by being a Rust consultancy which can fund the development of both Rust and Firefox without being heavily dependant on Google. That opportunity has been lost.
Realistically the likely outcome is to just break up Chrome from Google and use the Chrome engine as the standard browser engine, just like the Linux kernel is the standard kernel for all distros.
Case solved.
> The love the Linux world has for Firefox is not reciprocated by Mozilla in the same way, and this shows in various places where issues fixed and addressed on the Windows side are ignored on the Linux side for years or longer. > The best and most visible example of that is hardware video acceleration. That's not "Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem", that's "Desktop Linux has a problem". hardware acceleration was al…
Where do you do most of your web browsing, in the host or in the VM?
> The love the Linux world has for Firefox is not reciprocated by Mozilla in the same way, and this shows in various places where issues fixed and addressed on the Windows side are ignored on the Linux side for years or longer. > The best and most visible example of that is hardware video acceleration. That's not "Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem", that's "Desktop Linux has a problem". hardware acceleration was al…
What problem? I've been using Linux with Firefox for at least 15 years, and I've never thought this to be a problem. Linux is not an operating system for the unwashed masses, it's a specialist operating system for more technical oriented folks. It's less polished in many areas and requires some jumping through hoops at times as we all know. In return, you get a vastly better user experience if you're the right kind o…
> The love the Linux world has for Firefox is not reciprocated by Mozilla in the same way, and this shows in various places where issues fixed and addressed on the Windows side are ignored on the Linux side for years or longer. > The best and most visible example of that is hardware video acceleration. That's not "Desktop Linux has a Firefox problem", that's "Desktop Linux has a problem". hardware acceleration was al…
Media players like mpv supported VA-API for video acceleration for many years and that just worked for me without any issues on all my computers.
It is clearly a Firefox issue that it did not support API that was supported by many Linux-native software.
Earlier quoted context omitted.
As a Firefox and Linux user, I do see that problem. Hardware video acceleration is fine now, and apparently has been for some time. But e.g. Google Meet plainly refuses to blur the video call background when run on Firefox. It happily does that when running in Chromium.
That seems like a Firefox problem, not a Chromium one.