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Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

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Re: Auditory illusions with examples from Daft Punk

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Post by v64 »

mergejoin wrote: post #30
v64 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Happens all the time. Most common one for me is when you're making a patch on a synth and by chance dial in those frequencies that align with formants (similar to the Robot Rock effect the post mentions). Yesterday I was working on a bass drum beat, and after adding some synths playing on top of it, I started to hear the bass drum echo. So, my first thought was I had accidentally enabled some kind of reverb or echo e…

would you mind sending a mp3 of that effect? just curious :)

unfortunately as I said in an adjacent comment, I didn't end up making any recordings of this session, but will keep it in mind if I can make it happen again in the next couple of days!

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Post by samstave »

HenryMulligan wrote: post #67
samstave wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

EDIT: I said "radio station" only because thats what most would recognize... its not a radio station its just a really really faint sound of music playing - like jazz or something. its too dim to make out. ALSO - eveyone should checkout mynoise.net --- Yes! This literally usally happens right on the cusp of falling asleep... I equated it to what I had read a long time ago that "in order for one to fall asleep the bod…

The twitch right as you are falling asleep is known as a hypnic jerk. The flash of light may be related to exploding head syndrome. The faint "music" could be tinnitus, some electric device (speakers, guitar amp, etc.) picking up an AM or shortwave radio station, or just your brain making up (or playing back) music as you drift off to sleep. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypnic_jerk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expl…

THANK YOU

Hypnic jerk is my thing, and im male - and have all the halmarks such as chronic insomnia, but just started melatonin.

But wow - yeah it scares the heck out of me, yet the wiki says "benign" so that is thankful...

A morbid dark, intrusive thought that has happened to me when these occur is that my heart stopped due to sleep apnia and that I was startling myself back alive...

however these occur even when I am not yet asleep and in twilight mode.

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SIDS ;;

This reminds me of what the believe the cause of SIDS to be: a pocket of co2 around the infants breathing-bubble where they are just recirculating the CO2.

So, I wonder if the infants dont yet have the ability to startle themselves back awake... but adults do.

I have had two people close to me who have had SDIS babies, and its horrifying.

A small crib fan may prevent CO2 bubbles...

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Post by mgdlbp »

nerf0 wrote: post #65

I want to make this random off-topic comment: For years I've been collecting various audio clips, where "environmental" sound (voice, noise, etc.) transitions into music, or vise versa, in songs, movies and TV shows. I've searched the web and the closest term I can find is "diegetic switch", but not quite. Here's the (short) list: - https://youtu.be/9j9bVl3rfNk?t=29 In The Defenders, repeated piano note transitions i…

- "Worthless" in The Brave Little Toaster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UfsEj7AOGI

- the chant in The Dark Knight Rises https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KXxw-zXRqOs&t=130s

Probably a lot of variations in musicals, but most will be mundane.

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Post by empath-nirvana »

jcims wrote: post #15

I wonder how many folks that spend thousands of hours in front of a synthesizer or making electronic music or beats have identified similar illusions but don't really think of it as something 'interesting'. Like, 'oh yeah if you do this it kind of sounds like that'. Probably a whole catalog of tricks.

There's entire books and blog posts and youtube channels that go into all of this. Music production is all about creating a "space" and a lot of what producers do is create the illusions that sounds are coming from particular places, and that sound like they're from a "big" source or whatever.

A common thing to do is to pan a synth to one side, then add a very short (milliseconds) delay panned to the other side, which makes it sound like a very large sound played from a large distance away.

Another is stacking up a bunch of oscillators that are slightly detuned from each other, which again, makes the sound "big", because it sounds like many sources playing together, rather than one source.

Just using a "reverb" is generating an illusion of being in a large, echo-y space.

I do think that most producers don't really think of it as creating illusions, and more as making "cool" sounds.

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Post by defrost »

nerf0 wrote: post #65

I want to make this random off-topic comment: For years I've been collecting various audio clips, where "environmental" sound (voice, noise, etc.) transitions into music, or vise versa, in songs, movies and TV shows. I've searched the web and the closest term I can find is "diegetic switch", but not quite. Here's the (short) list: - https://youtu.be/9j9bVl3rfNk?t=29 In The Defenders, repeated piano note transitions i…

Pink Floyd - Alan's Psychedelic Breakfast (1970) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7pkOZ5n6PQ

John Cage - 4'33" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTEFKFiXSx4

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Post by oefnak »

jcims wrote: post #66
nerf0 wrote: post #65

I want to make this random off-topic comment: For years I've been collecting various audio clips, where "environmental" sound (voice, noise, etc.) transitions into music, or vise versa, in songs, movies and TV shows. I've searched the web and the closest term I can find is "diegetic switch", but not quite. Here's the (short) list: - https://youtu.be/9j9bVl3rfNk?t=29 In The Defenders, repeated piano note transitions i…

I don’t know if this counts but it’s one of my all time favorites. - https://youtu.be/IXdNnw99-Ic (Wish You Were Here - Pink Floyd)

Or the Gunners Dream, where a shout turns into a saxophone !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LSE7qdjy3Q0&t=1

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Post by x3n0ph3n3 »

ilyt wrote: post #42

This is a better demonstration of octave illusion, I had no clue wtf the article meant until I listened to this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMMsK9rjBWo But I heard the lower tone in the middle of my head and higher tone bouncing from left to right. Not the "low on one side, high on the other side" article mentioned. Kinda interesting to think some people might hear completely different thing in same song...

Thanks for sharing this. Oddly enough, I don't hear the illusion at all and it seemed very clear to me that they were alternating sides.

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Post by Slow_Hand »

nerf0 wrote: post #65

I want to make this random off-topic comment: For years I've been collecting various audio clips, where "environmental" sound (voice, noise, etc.) transitions into music, or vise versa, in songs, movies and TV shows. I've searched the web and the closest term I can find is "diegetic switch", but not quite. Here's the (short) list: - https://youtu.be/9j9bVl3rfNk?t=29 In The Defenders, repeated piano note transitions i…

I think you’d get a kick out of Chassol. He’s a French composer building entire compositions around the contours of environmental sounds.

I’d start with his Big Sun record. Listen to ‘Birds, Pt. 1’ and you’ll get it right away.

He also does these compositions he calls “ultrascores” where he’s composing to scenes from TV shows. Here’s one he did for The Wire:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bV1lY1UsEng&pp=ygUQQ2hhc3NvbCB...

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Post by pests »

anArbitraryOne wrote: post #44

Would someone please send him a tweet telling him that you can start videos specific timestamps on YouTube by adding "&t=0s" where 0 is the desired number of seconds to the URL? I'm not making a new Twitter acct just to contact a person who has "Contact Follow me at Twitter: @ugu_rs" as the only means of such on their blog

You can use 1m2s format too.
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