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Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by taeric »

JohnFen wrote: post #65
taeric wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is probably more standard than you realize? Quick search shows over 14 million are enrolled in the airport program that requires iris scanning, as well as fingerprints.

Are you talking about the US? 14 million out of a population of 340 million doesn't sound very standard to me.

Yes, US. And agreed it isn't majority, is why I gave the number. Should have made that clearer.

Probably better to look at passport, if we are only talking about fingerprints. And that is about half of the US? Still not a majority, but I assume a lot of "standard" things aren't majority. I was pointing out that it is getting more widespread.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by entriesfull »

Anyone else find it disgusting how crypto (btc) was created to give people freedom from centralized authorities and then centralized companies like this do the complete opposite?

Here's an article going more in depth about the shadiness of this company:

https://www.technologyreview.com/2022/04/06/1048981/worldcoi...

And a quote at the end of the article by Edward Snowden:

“Don’t catalogue eyeballs. Don’t use biometrics for anti-fraud. In fact, don’t use biometrics for anything. The human body is not a ticket-punch.”

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by JohnFen »

flskafdslaf wrote: post #69
JohnFen wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never once had an employer ask me for such a thing.

Weird. Every job I've had has asked for my passport (UK) or work permit (US).

I'm in the US, and every employer has asked me for proof that I can legally work in the US. But none of the proof I provide involves biometric data (unless you count the photo on my driver's license as "biometric data"). But I'm a citizen, and I could easily imagine that the requirements might be more strict for noncitizens.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by jallen_dot_dev »

doylio wrote: post #35
belter wrote: post #23

How many body parts can be scanned for a unique fingerprint? I can see at least another five or six coins out of this idea, some pretty shocking :-)

"Hey! Can I scan your balls in exchange for some cryptocurrency?"

You are cutting your TAM by at least 50%.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by kotaKat »

nequo wrote: post #49

Wouldn't asymmetric cryptography be better suited for building proofs of identity for government transfers? you must allow a metallic sphere to look at you with its eye and generate a “personality test.” The proof is then associated with the QR code and the app becomes a passport called World ID. [...] Altman claims that the digital passports and wallets will be essential when general artificial intelligence (AI) has…

It already is and you can buy World IDs for like... $20? $30? from Chinese marketplaces.[1]

https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/05/24/black-market-for-...

"Sellers were offering KYC verifications for the World App, which offers wallet and ID services. The credentials often come from developing countries like Cambodia and Kenya, according to social media posts."

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by beepbooptheory »

JohnFen wrote: post #58
mydriasis wrote: post #5

> The capture of biometric data has become common in contexts of migration, where iris-scanning is a precondition to receiving humanitarian aid. In 2019, the United Nations World Food Program partnered with the firm Palantir to optimize these operations, which today affect 160 million people in 120 countries. Haha what in the hell

> United Nations World Food Program partnered with the firm Palantir Woah. Why in the world would they be willing to partner with Palantir? They're amongst the scummiest of scumbag companies.

I agree but also feel like entities like the UN are pretty much the entire customer base for Palantir. Or at least, they're not a huge jump from, say, the DoD, whatever your beliefs about either are.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by clivestaples »

9021007 wrote: post #37
clivestaples wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This just moves the puck. No chance in hell this technology is not abused.

It moves the puck… to the United Nations. I fail to see the problem here.

The problem as I see it is the consolidation of power. Add to that instant global enforcement along with the current state of surveillance, an elite group of people have an insane amount of control.

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Post by gpvos »

9021007 wrote: post #37
clivestaples wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This just moves the puck. No chance in hell this technology is not abused.

It moves the puck… to the United Nations. I fail to see the problem here.

The UN is not the most effective and corruption-free organization I know of.

Re: Why Sam Altman wants to scan two billion eyes

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Post by [deleted] »

kotaKat wrote: post #76
nequo wrote: post #49

Wouldn't asymmetric cryptography be better suited for building proofs of identity for government transfers? you must allow a metallic sphere to look at you with its eye and generate a “personality test.” The proof is then associated with the QR code and the app becomes a passport called World ID. [...] Altman claims that the digital passports and wallets will be essential when general artificial intelligence (AI) has…

It already is and you can buy World IDs for like... $20? $30? from Chinese marketplaces.[1] https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/05/24/black-market-for-... "Sellers were offering KYC verifications for the World App, which offers wallet and ID services. The credentials often come from developing countries like Cambodia and Kenya, according to social media posts."

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