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Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

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Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#71

To align incentives, maybe it's time we start paying for the web content we consume with money.

Sure. When they charge a reasonable price for occasional visitors, not the "just the price of a Starbucks coffee per month" subscription that's the SaaS wet dream.

Edit: also, non targeted NON INTRUSIVE ads will do too. Or would have done. If the ad industry wouldn't have burned any shred of credibility they ever had.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#72
I recently started using Artifact on iOS as a news aggregator, and... wow. It uses a standard customized WebView and not a SafariViewController or whatever, meaning that it doesn't support any of the system-wide content blockers that I'm used to.

It's truly amazing that websites are so insanely difficult to just... read, these days. Ads that pop up covering the screen, videos (irrelevant to the article) which I scroll past, and which then suddenly decide to pin themselves to cover the top 1/3 of the screen and autoplay, along with ads covering the bottom 1/4 of the screen, while cookie reminders pop up and the page keeps jumping around because ads take so long to load... It's truly astonishing how bad of an experience I was missing out on.

Artifact is a pretty nice app, all in all, but the browsing experience without content blockers is so terrible that I just can't bring myself to use it anymore.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#73
post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yea, let's blame EU for websites spying on you If website uses cookies just for legit purposes (e.g auth, language choice), then it doesn't need to show cookie consent. Webmasters should get awarness on this or stop spying

So you’re a company with a web property. Your lawyers tell you you have two options: 1. Ensure that you’re perfectly abiding by all “legit purposes” and be prepared to update your policies and software each time those change, at the risk of huge fines. Or, 2. Just put an annoying banner up and have no risk. Which do you do? Government created this problem. Yes, it was in response to bad behavior from industry, but th…

That's not how this works though.

The banners usually don't provide you with an all-or-nothing approach. Choice is usually between reject everything *except essential*, accept everything, or something in between.

That means the analysis for point 1 has been made. They know exactly which cookies need consent.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#74
post #43

This is one of the reasons why Social Networks are eating websites. Most people get a bad experience browsing the internet. Yeah, I get it, we know Hacker News, and other good websites. But my dad just want to read news about sports and politics, it's much easier to do it through Facebook posts than to open a browser and get annoyed by ads, popups, etc. Same for young people: I can get fun with TikTok and YouTube, wh…

Even despite the fact that Amazon is a pile of crappy knock-offs and astroturfed reviews, it still manages to be better than the UX nightmare of actually trying to go through the companies' own websites directly to figure out what they're selling and how much they cost.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#75

I don’t live in the EU and I have the same experience. This is my beef with the EU exporting their legislations.

Your beef is misplaced, madam/sir. EU does not mandate any website to store on your computer cookies that require consent. The companies (and individuals, hah) that choose to track you, do so of their own volition.

As an EU citizen, I am actually somewhat delighted that our legislation that attempts to improve privacy is being successfully exported. But similarly to how I find the US exporting their legislation quite loathsome---at least at times---I understand your beef.

Re: Sigh, this is what browsing the web in the EU looks like nowadays (2021)

#80

Lately, I've been having developers and designers on my team install each of the three major browsers without plugins and visit five of the "top 10 media sites" ( https://www.similarweb.com/top-websites/news-and-media/ ), plus twitter, facebook and linkedin for a total of two hours so they see what the web looks like for regular users. It doesn't take long for people to realize just how terrible 25 years of accumulat…

I'm quite literally shocked whenever I have to use a relative's computer for a bit.

You may want to check that the outlet is grounded.
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